Do you think the guns chambered in .357sig be around much longer ??

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Will the guns chambered in .357sig be around much longer ??

I was talking to my local gunshop owner & he said that the pistols chambered in .357sig just dont sell very well...that every once in awhile somebody will ask for it...He thinks some of the major gun manufacturers will drop them from their lineup...What do you guys think ??
 
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If you're asking for opinions, I think that they'll be around for quite some time. There's more manu. making ammo for the .357sig nowadays. People just aren't familiar with them depending on area -although police agencies appear to be adopting them. They shoot great, straight and hard.

Remember that 9mm used to cost a fortune over 10 years ago.

Anyways, if you are a contrarian, buy a "standard" pistol in .40cal and get an aftermarket barrel in .357sig. -the magazines will work for both, then you won't have to worry about owning a "dead" cartridge.
 
I predicted long ago that the .357Sig would go the way of the 10mm. I'm still standing by that. A lot of ink has been devoted to the cartridge in the gunrags and the State Police in my location use it. But there are so many negatives. Cartridge setback, poor accuracy, no carbide dies, etc, etc. Granted, some of these problems have been "worked out" by the major ammo companies.

None of my shooting friends own purebred .357Sigs but some have drop-in barrels. For the most part, the barrels just collect dust due to the cost of the ammo.

It will never attain the popularity of the .357 Magnum or the .45 ACP. But it WILL have a 10mm-style cult following, a small cult following.
 
IC, where did you hear about poor accuracy? Everything I've ever read about the round states that it has great accuracy. In my personal experience as well, it has wonderful accuracy. I'm just wondering what you've heard. It's always good to hear the other side of the story.:)
 
I think the 357sig is here for good. Its been slow out of the blocks but it has great numbers goin for it. Its accurate, powerful, a great penetrator as well as the fact that it sounds and looks cool. If given the option, Id take a 357sig over a 9mm in any pistol. While its true 9mm+p+s' can match a standard 357sig load, the 9mm is maxed out, the 357sig has room to get more powerful.
 
Poor accuracy? Nuh-uh. Definitely a target-grade round, other notable detractors notwithstanding. I don't own a 357 SIG anymore, but the one that I had (P 229) shot like a laser. I've never encountered anyone who's experience was any different. vanfunk
 
I think it will fade to black. There's just something about the bottlenecked case that bugs. Like it's got an attitude -- tryin to be all fancy-boy.

Personally I don't see the advantage over 9mm +P+ but whatever.
 
Callahan . . .

Criticize the .357 Sig in any way(s) you wish, except for inherent accuracy. I believe its precision is excellent -- in the same superior class as the .38 Special, the .45 ACP, or the 9x19.
 
I think it will do pretty well. There is NOTHING wrong with the accuracy of the .357 Sig cartridge, the fact that that was even brought up as a criticism seems certain proof of ignorance about it.

Here is a sampling... averages at 25 yards were under 2" for 5 different loads. Enough said about THAT complaint. :rolleyes:

http://www.greent.com/40Page/
 
It is another solution in search of a problem.

The advantages of a 357 sig over a 9mm +P+ are minimal, and you end up with a less versatile gun overall than 9mm.
 
Unless statistics are released of "real world" performance proving that it's a superior round to the other available defensive cartridges, I feel it will go the way of the 41 mag and 10mm rounds. Having a niche in the shooting community will take time and a proven track record showing superiority will be needed before people flock to it in droves. It's not been out that long and not adopted by enough agencies for that to come to fruition anytime soon.

Rick
 
It will most likely fade into obscurity, akin to several of the previously mentioned "next best thing" cartridges. Whether or not it is or is not actually the next best thing has little to do with it.
 
As long as they are issued to Federal,State and Local agencys like they are they will be around. Will they be as popular as the 40 probably not anytime soon. But they have a nitch to fill. 40's appeal to 9mm and 45 fans alike. The 357 mag appeals to 357 mag fans that want an auto.
PAT
 
The advantages of a 357 sig over a 9mm +P+ are minimal, and you end up with a less versatile gun overall than 9mm.

Really where did that stroke of wisdom come from. About 200 fps and 150 foot pounds is minimal. If thats true the 40 is also a minimal imporvement over the 9mm too. Also you end up with a more versatile gun if you get a 357 sig over a 9mm. With my 31 I can fire 357 sig or 40 sw or 9mm all with the change of a barrel. The 9mm can fire 9mm and 9mm. In fact in this day and age I see little use for the 9mm other than as a learning cartridge for new shooters. Much like the 38 special was to the 357 mag. I think the 9mm will start to fade away like it has in LEO circles.

PAT
 
I see the "accuracy" statement ruffled some feathers.

The accuracy thing was a part of my personal experience with the round. My brother-in-law purchased a barrel for his Glock 23 and had nothing but problems. Cartridge setback with certain brands, feeding problems with certain magazines, and piss-poor accuracy with EVERY brand of ammo that could be purchased locally. For a drop-in barrel, everything locked up tight. That was the first thing we checked. Factory-style tight all the way around when locked in battery.

I too have read that the accuracy of this round was supposed to be top-notch. Of course those same articles said that it was "a natural for feeding" too. Well, not in my experience. Regarding accuracy, I believe the best group we could manage was 3" at 25 yds from a Hoppe's Pistol Perch. Tested several brands, everything we could find locally. I wouldn't carry my bro's converted Glock ANYWHERE.

Speer Lawman was the most accurate (3" @ 25yds) and also didn't setback during feeding. If anyone thinks 3" groups qualify for the accuracy award, then I don't know what to think. This is not secondhand info either. I was personally involved in this nightmare.

Callahan
 
Get a good barrel and and you will see a difference. My stock glock 31 will group into 2 inches at 25 yards. My sig 229 sport wil do it right at 1.25 inches.
PAT
 
OPINION

IMNSHO 357 SIG is extremely accurate and WILL stick around (poor accuracy due to unfitted barrel in Glock).

Buy correct launch platform.
 
Okay, let's look at this "inaccuracy" statement. The pistol in question was a G23 with a drop in barrel. Uhm, I am not aware of many Glock 19s, 23s or 32s that will group smaller than a 3" @ 25 yards.

In my P229, which shot RINGS around my G32 (which I no longer have), the loosest grouping at 17 yards was just over 1.75". The G32 was hard pressed to keep the groups under 2.5" at the same distance.

Okay, it's only 3/4 an inch, but a difference no less.

Will the .357 Sig be around? Sure. How many pistols are made in 10mm any longer? Or .38 Super? Or .41 Magnum? These rounds still are made by every ammo company.

'Tween the .40S&W and the .357 Sig, I'd take the bottle neck cartridge every day of the week and three times on Sunday. But if you throw the 10mm Auto in the mix, you can keep those "smaller" carts for the little girls! :D ;)

Derek
 
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