Do you get strange looks at your range when you exercise while shooting?

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If you did this in front of others at the indoor range I frequent, you would probably be stopped and questioned.

The range can be a dangerous place, and anything that is perceived to be strange, would make a lot of people nervous.

I'm not saying anything negative about you. I don't even know you.

I think many of us have heard stories about violence, sometimes shooter-self-inflicted at ranges where others are potential victims.

If I we you I'd brief the range master about your intensions and ask permission first.
 
At the range I belong to, anyone can be the range master. We have a orange vest that hangs on the line and whoever is there first is the rangemaster.

There is a range caretaker who is basically a pudgy self important security guard on some sort of power trip, and he tends to hassle anyone that happens to be around, regardless of what they're doing.

Membership is $200/year, I think fo that I deserve to get some training value for my range time.
 
You claim not to be a mall ninja or a kid playing airsoft, yet you come to a public firearm forum looking for approval from a bunch of strangers regarding your training regimen.

If you are being deployed in 2008, work on your PT at a gym and work on your shooting at a range. You will get plenty of chance to integrate the two with a group of professionals in an appropriate environment. If you absolutely cannot stand to wait, try to do it when the place is empty. Why draw attention to yourself? If you insist on following your training regimen, then go ahead and do it but don't be surprised if you are treated like a jerk. You paid for the range membership, as long as you don't violate the rules, then do whatever makes you happiest.
 
I stretch my back, legs, arms and hands before any range session. I learned long ago that an unstretched body performs more poorly than a stretched one in almost every activity where precision is required. Yes, I get some strange looks, but I just ignore the lookers.
 
You claim not to be a mall ninja or a kid playing airsoft, yet you come to a public firearm forum looking for approval from a bunch of strangers regarding your training regim
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I don't remember him asking for approval. He asked for advice for addressing the discomfort other shooters sometimes showed with his program, and he asked what other stress simulation techniques folks here used. Seems like a gun forum is a good place to ask both questions.

I'd take a hard look at someone who was doing such a program at the range, but my concern would be limited to making sure the safety rules were being followed (muzzle control esp). As long as I thought the routine was safe, I'd either ignore it or continue to watch to see if I could learn something.

I've done similar exercises to simulate stress, but never at a public range. I'm lucky in that we have a lot of empty land here where you can go shoot by yourself. If you can find a shooting spot on a hill, you can try hill sprints to the firing point combined with a timed exercise on the targets.
 
ISC said:
I was hoping to get an "amen brother" and some ideas about other exercises and stuff to work into my training program. I've thought about carrying a peice of pipe or a weighted axe handle when I run to simulate carrying my rifle, but that's not that big of a concern for me.
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As an old vet who's been there and done that as well as done a lot of action competition shooting, I think you're both over-doing it and I think you need to step back and re-examine your attitude.

There are a lot of ways you can practice precision during physical stress/exhaustion. Try throwing darts. It's eye to hand coordination and try doing that after having whipped out four or five dozen pushups or running in place for fifteen minutes.

You can also dry fire--holding a sight picture when breathing and sweating heavily is a lot different than under relaxed, controlled situations.

Lot of things you can do to reach your goal without annoying or disturbing other shooters.

I'm not in the military anymore. Haven't been in a long while. I respect and appreciate those who are, but if I saw you at my range doing what you describe and if it bothered me or my wife, I'd ask you to tone it down. If you didn't, I'd be raising hell with the owner.

You're in the military. You're there to protect and defend your fellow citizens' rights--not use your service as an excuse to do what you want or train how you want at a general public firing range.

Many ranges I've shot at around the country have areas, bays or stalls that you can get that are either segregated from other shooters or are far enough away that your stress-training will not be a distraction. Try asking the rangemaster to assign you to one of those areas.

Or, find out when the range is least busy and try to shoot then.

Lot of things someone who's been around as long as a ssgt should know/be able to do to where this isn't an issue.

You stated yourself that you came here "looking for an amen brother." I'll give you an "amen brother" for serving your country and working to be a better shot, but I'm not going to give you an "amen brother" for thinking that because you're taking shooting more serious that somehow you're entitled to disturb or annoy other shooters.

Jeff
 
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I don't remember him asking for approval. He asked for advice for addressing the discomfort other shooters sometimes showed with his program, and he asked what other stress simulation techniques folks here used. Seems like a gun forum is a good place to ask both questions.
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I think asking for an "amen brother" is asking for approval, but that's just my take on it. You can certainly learn a lot from the internet including the gun forums, but I find it odd that a "professional warrior" is here looking for information and advice. I would hope that my doctor learns from other doctors and from professional journals and continuing medical education seminars, vs. the "health information" internet forums, but maybe that is just me.

Nothing wrong with limbering up or stretching out before shooting, but doing PT and trying to simulate shooting under stress at a range with general shooting going on is pretty goofy.

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I was hoping to get an "amen brother" and some ideas about other exercises and stuff to work into my training program. I've thought about carrying a peice of pipe or a weighted axe handle when I run to simulate carrying my rifle, but that's not that big of a concern for me.
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A guy running and doing push ups disturbs people? You'd think the range was a ritzy golf course from the way some of the people in this thread are talking. If you need complete silence and no movement behind you then you are probably doing it wrong, or at least in the wrong place.

ISC, you get an "amen brother" from me. If people want to look at you strange, then let them. They are probably just curious, and not upset by it. If they want to ask you about it, tell them the truth. Or tell them you are training for a biathlon.
 
I have a range set up on my parents small farm. We do some of the same stuff...its just very private for us.

We will load the gun, do ten pushups, then run a hundred yards, ten more pushups, take the gun off the table and do our best...ouch. Seems to really open the groups.

I know its not the same as a :eek: fight for your life situation but its got to help. At least its different form just standing there. We do enough of that, too.

Mark.
 
They're just jealous. Too out of shape to do 5 push ups let alone 50.

If it helps you, more power to you. As long as you aren't putting others in danger, breaking range rules, or committing some unscrupulous act, what you do in you lane is your business. Ignore the stares. If it benefits you in the future you'll be happy you practiced in that manner.
 
One simple idea might be bust out a workout before you go. I mean a really good one. And then between shooting sets take a walk and take a jog around the block or something and really push yourself get back and fire off some rounds before your heart rate drops and your breathing slow to much. . . people would probably be more receptive to this kind of activity. Also if you really push yourself you might find it more effective then push-up, sit-up, jogging sets in between your shooting. You'd be simulating worst case scenario fatigue, and if you can get your fatigued groups to match you resting groups you know you're doing well.








oh yea . . . and if all else fails you can stand their on the firing line and use a thymaster, if your going to get dirty looks, why not go all the way . . . :)
 
THE BIG THING I'M TRYING TO DO IS RAISE MY HEART RATE AND BREATHING RATE BEFORE SHOOTING.

If someone would like to make a suggestion about how to accomplish that I'll try it. If youve never tried shooting with you heart pounding and breathing heavy you have no idea how much it affects you. Because of the training I do I hope to be that much better prepared when me and my buddies have our lives at stake.

The guy that made the statement that i'll get all the training in this regard from the army has no idea what he's talking about. The only shoot and move training we get and ever will get is conducted with blanks.

Many of the members at this site don't seem to have a clue about any type of shooting except for punching holes in paper or shooting out of a deer stand.
 
ISC said:
Many of the members at this site don't seem to have a clue about any type of shooting except for punching holes in paper or shooting out of a deer stand.
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Since you already seem to know most of it, if not all of it, why are you asking us clueless deer-stand, paper-shooters how to raise your highy trained (but as of yet, untested) warrior's heartbeat?

And, you might be surprised at what some of us deer-stand, paper-shooting folks have been through and know how to do in regards to shooting at places other than a gun range.

Jeff
 
I honestly don't see what's so difficult about this. There are significant differences in ranges. Some encourage training in defensive shooting while others don't understand it at all and restrict shooting to bullseye.

I think the trick here is simply to let both the range master and those shooting near you what you'd like to do and why. Then ask permission. That way, no one will think you're going postal ;).

If you're denied permission or obviously making others uneasy, it's time to move on to another range. Their range, their rules.

That said, I think this one's run its course. Posters seem to be irreversibly polarized and there's little else to be gained from it. On to other things.

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