Do we REALLY know - or do we just pass on what we've heard?

I try and stick to facts as much as possible,

i.e. "My glock blew up and none of my Sigs have, FWIW"

Not, "I've heard that Glocks blow up"

And " I have also seen a Ruger Blackhawk and a Colt 45 blow up, in person!"
 
I've personally seen a Llama jam on round after at my local range. When I see folks with jamming problems I offer help. The owner accepted my offer. I took it part, cleaned it and lubed it (yes I lug a truck full of stuff to the range). Still it jammed like no one's business. I also noticed that the quality was extremely poor.

If you've got a winner keep it, because they're rare and far between when dealing with Yamas.

I agree that price and quality don't always go hand in hand. I can think of no better example than the humble but robust pistol designed by "Comrade" Makarova.

BTW I think it's Llama as in South American camelid. ;)

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[This message has been edited by Tecolote (edited October 02, 2000).]
 
Hi, Tecolote,

The Makarov just looks humble; actually it is pretty sophisicated. A lot of rubles went into heavy study by the USSR MOD on what is needed in a service pistol. Their conclusions were against large caliber and high power and more on shootability and ease of handling for those troops not armed with the service rifle.

I once saw a KGB movie in which an agent armed with a Makarov was standing facing a silhouette target at about 15 meters. On signal, he dropped, drew, fired two shots, rolled, fired two more, rolled behind a log barrier, fired two more, rolled to the other end of the barrier, and fired two more with his left hand.

The whole thing took about 7 seconds and the group was about 2 inches. That made me want a Makarov and they weren't even available then. I now have a Makarov, but I sure can't shoot it like that guy did - not the gun's fault, though.

Jim
 
I had a J22 that shot pretty well and never had a problem with the AMT Backup I used to own, never seen a Glock blow up yet and never owned a Llama.
 
I try to keep it to what I know. I am one of the guys you are talking about that has bad mouthed the Llama. I have shot exactly 4 shots through a Llama .380. After the 4th shot parts started falling out of the gun (the extractor, springs, ejector). I looked it over and thought it looked and felt like a POS before I shot it. I was right. I'm glad you're having good luck with yours. If I were in the market for a good $200 dollar pistol I would never look at the Llama, but more towards a KelTec P11 9mm.
 
All i know,is that my supposed "piece of crap" Hi -Point compensated 9mm is the only handgun i own (out of 6),that has never-ever given me 1 single problem,& that includes the "fabulous & always perfect" makarov! :)
 
I had a Llama 45 which I sold, but it never gave me any problems.

I still have an old Llama 22, which has never given any problems, and is fun to plink with.

I would not carry them for self-defense, but for general plinking, they are fine.
 
I'm new on the block but wanted to join the frey. I own a Llama .45. I purchased one of the mini max pistols about 2 yr ago. Three problems existed. 1.magazine kept falling out while firing. 2. When dry fired, the firing pin would stick in the full forward position, of course when you drew the slide to the rear the firing pin retainer would fall to the ground. (this would happened when first problem occured). And, 3. stove pipe jams about every other mag full. After sending the gun back to the service facility a couple of times my local gun store kind of felt sorry for me (I guess). They let me exchange it for one of the Max-1. It has functioned flawlessy. But it is still a $200.00 gun.
 
Everything I know I learned from watching old episodes of the A-Team......... :D

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