Do We Have Many CAS Shooters Here?

I've shot SASS matches for over 10 years. Blackpowder duelist (one handed). Now, I mostly shoot ICORE, IDPA some USPSA and occasional cowboy matches. Mark
 
I tried my first regulated cowboy match with 100% blackpowder shooting frontier class awhile back. They put some extra restrictions on me since they'd never had a fellow use blackpowder percussion revolvers in a match. :confused:

I think I was the only feller using blackpowder...I need mo' smoke. :D:D:D
 
Sorry, Hardy. I've been sending PM replies but they come back to me with no actual reply.

I sent you an email with some information about our cowboy matches.
 
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Got It ! Printed it out and you will get some good honest and serious bp's over there --posting it on wall tomorrow THANKS!
 
"I tried my first regulated cowboy match with 100% blackpowder shooting frontier class awhile back. They put some extra restrictions on me since they'd never had a fellow use blackpowder percussion revolvers in a match. "

Was it an actual SASS match? What kind of restrictions? Cap and ball revolvers are generally used in Frontiersman category. Also, was it a new club? Can't imagine they would have been around for long if they've never had a Frontiersman shoot there. Smokin Gator
 
Yes, it was a real regulated match- they just don't get a lot (any, really) of fellers out shooting percussion revolvers or frontier class- I think that several of the competitors were gaming for speed as their goal, rather than just having a good time. I did get a lot of questions on the percussion revolvers, and only had a single malfunction during the match, which I remedied quickly and continued. :cool:
 
I can think of three of our regular shooters who have used cap and ball revolvers in our monthly matches. There are several more who shoot "Frontier Cartridge" with black powder loads.

I don't shoot black powder at this point but I always get a kick out of watching those who shoot the "Holy Black". It's just fun to watch.
 
I would like to start shooting SASS - in fact I joined this forum because I saw this thread! :) There are some very active clubs in my area and I have visited a monthly shoot.

However - I do not currently own *any* of the required guns. My spreadsheet says it will cost me ~$2000 to get started with the cheapest outfit of pistols, lever gun, coach gun & leather. That's money I just don't have right now. I know what the SASS shooters will say - they'll say the SASS folks are all super friendly, and they will happily loan me gear to shoot - and I have no doubt that is true - but that's just not my style. It would make me uncomfortable to be dependent on other people - and I really don't want to shoot someone else's guns.

So... For now I'll be a SASS mall ninja & fanboi. I'll go to the monthly shoots, watch & listen to the veterans, volunteer to police brass, etc. At least I'll get to wear my boots a couple of times a month! :p
 
LZ, I hear 'ya. When I stated I had not one SASS-legal guns, no clothing, nada. I tell people to start with a decent quality gunbelt (leather is hard to share). Revolvers are not difficult to share in a match-when your "donor" has finished a stage, join him (or her) at the unloading table and holster the wheelguns. I shared revolvers for probably 3-4 months while I saved up for my own.

Long guns are easier to share. I saved my quarters and watched for a deal on a shotgun, then saved some more until I was able to get a rifle. It took me about a year to get everything.

Now, I admit by that time I was really feeling like a mooch but no one ever grumbled. I supplied my own ammo except where people asked me to shoot their ammo in their guns. In those instances I offered to buy ammo or components-all the offers were refused. I have since provided ammo and loaned guns to other new shooters, kind of a "pay it forward" thing.

If, while you are borrowing, you show up and carry your end of the log by helping to set up and tear down, pick up brass and perform other posse duties, you will more than pay your way. Your club will be happy to have you.

Now, I think it is possible to get outfitted for less than two grand. A friend of mine bought a pair of .45 Colt revolvers for $500. Let people know you are a new shooter needing hardware and deals will come your way.

It does cost a bit of coin to get decent guns. Don't waste your money buying junk that doesn't work. I get a lot of use and enjoyment out of my cowboy guns; well worth the money spent.

I have met some folks who just can't get comfortable with borrowing. For my part, if someone is willing to show up and help out, they are an asset not a liability and I'm proud to help them out.
 
I've shared guns plenty of times. In fact I recommend that you don't buy guns until you've tried out some and know what you want.
 
Thanks Crunchy Frog - it really helps to hear that there are ways to get started without needing a big bankroll. Maybe if I hang around the folks enough, I'll feel better about being a moocher. That's also really good advice about buying the leather first and then the shotgun - I think if I could save my pennies and do that I would at least feel like I was bringing something of my own to the game. :cool:

As to the cost - don't forget that I'm in the People's Republik of Kalifornia - where everything firearms related is harder and more expensive than it is for you folks in the Free States. :p
 
@ Lead Zeppelin

Watch the pawn shops and ask around at the clubs you go to.

A few of my better purchases the past couple years...
I bought a NIB 20" Rossi 1892 .45 Colt in September last year for $350, a 5 1/2" Uberti .45 revolver on closeout in a neighboring town for $227.49 in January last year, a used Marlin .357 1894C in August 2009 for $249 at a pawn shop, another 1894C in nearly new condition off the SASS wire in August 2010 for $374.25, a very nice JM Marlin 1895CB .45-70 (side match rifle) two weeks ago for $450 from a friend who wanted a guide gun instead, a 20" Rossi/Puma 1892 .357 as new w/o box in January 2009 for $300, a seemingly unfired 20" Uberti 1866 .45 Colt just over two years ago for $575 off the used rack at a local gun store, three 5 1/2" Uberti Model P .45's AND three 3 1/2" Model P Jr .38 spl's for $327.75 each on closeout less than 11 months ago (that was an expensive day!).
SxS shotguns can be found fairly easily for under $250. For that matter, I use a single shot once in awhile just to see how I can do with it - $120 brand new most anywhere around here.

I outfitted my daughter in '07 when she came to live with me with similar purchases, and paid a whopping total of $749.99 for two new Model P Jr .38's, a used and very slick *pre safety* Rossi 1892 .357 ($300), and a used Stevens 311 20g ($100). In all fairness, one of the Model P Jr's was won at a larger two day shoot with $20 worth of raffle tickets. :D
 
Well, there ya go again bragging about the world outside Kalifornia. For some weird reason, none of the pawn shops around here have firearms anymore. We are pretty much limited to local gun shops, a few scattered big chain stores like Turners (none near me) and Big 5. Other than that, we hunt through the buy/sell forum on CalGuns and other foums or work with out of state dealers or GunBroker sellers that are willing to ship to a local FFL in Kalifornia.

At least single action revolvers are exempt from the restrictions of the Kalifornia "Safe Gun List" - don't even get me started on that nightmare... :mad:

But the weather is nice... :)
 
I'm going to try to get my wife set up for next years season... will be looking for a match for my stainless Single Six in 32 mag for her, already have an extra double barrel, & will likely get myself a new 45 Colt lever gun, since I shoot 45 Colt Montados, & pass down my engraved 38 for her to use... once we started, we were really suprised how many women shooters there are shooting at the club I shoot at...

some are fully outfitted, some partially & some share guns with their men... one gal I kinda feel sorry for, shoots 2 different caliber handguns, one in 38 & one in 45 Colt, even has different grips, birds head on one, & conventional on the other... not sure if that would be better than sharing or not... she does alright, but I want my wife shooting at least the same grip frame & caliber in the handguns... they don'y have to have matching finishes, but I want to give her at least the advantage of shooting the same grip frame shape, & caliber

once guns are taken care of... come the harder part of womens clothing... she can probably get started with just a pair of jeans & a button down shirt... but I'm sure by the time next years state championships come round ( they are shot are the range I shoot at ) my credit cards will take a hit in the womens clothing vendors, of which there were several at this last years match... ( I bought a nice set of spurs there as well )
 
LOL - clothing is the easy part for me. We have good thrift shops around here, and (apparently) quite a few wanna-be cowboys who support the local charities!

I'm not going to be a stickler on clothing at the beginning. After a week of visiting thrift shops, I found a well-used pair of roper boots ($8), a collarless long-sleeve western shirt ($4), a shiny black vest ($4), suspenders ($2) and a beat-up felt hat ($5) that after a good brushing and a little time over some steam, should work out quite well. For now, I'll just wear some black jeans I already own - but I'll keep looking for better pants. Total investment to date: $23 :D
 
I am very interested in CAS. I attended a new shooters orientation put on by the Tejas Caballeros near Johnson City Texas last weekend. It was a great experience. More clubs should do that. They have a great range and club. I live in Reno NV. We have a couple of clubs in the area. I am sure that soon I'll be a member of one of them along with SASS. I'm trying to get the gear squared away first. I'm modifing a button up levi shirt and a pair of levi button fly pants to suit me. I have the boots and a hat that will suffice for now. I bought a new vaquero in 45 colt and ordered another that will be in the store on weds or thurs. I also ordered a Uberti 1873 short rifle in 45 colt. I don't know when I'll see that. Hopefully by spring. I think it is coming by clipper ship and a freight wagon. I have 2 Stoeger SXS shotguns. One coach one full size. Looking at a local guy for leather. I already have one of his ccw holsters and like it. Anyways I'm looking forward to CAS when it warms up. I'm thinking about shooting double duelist. I like the idea of developing my off hand shooting. Trying to get as much information as possible. What sort of dry fire practice drills do any of you do? Thanks Haley
 
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