Do they make a mouse gun size with a wallop

At least in your case they wouldn't have to design a whole new gun for that to happen, or you could always opt for a 6 shot .32 J frame in either .327 or .32 H&R Magnum.
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That's what kills me. It would be so easy to make, even as a limited edition!

Of course, I'm not sure I'd want an LCR or alloy J-frame in .327. I love it with a longer barrel and think the 6-shot Sp101 or something on a K-frame would be perfect. Like .357 in tiny guns, you get a lot of blast for a legitimate but inefficient increase in power when you put the .327 in a snub. I really just want a 6-shot LCR in .32 H&R magnum. I'd buy two!

I know there are S&W 432s out there, if you can find one in good shape for a reasonable price. It just isn't the same. The small-frame, hammerless LCR is really something special.
 
Would this 3 shooter count for packing a punch ;)
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I carry the LCR 357 all the time! Lightweight, powerful, easy to carry, downside only 5 rounds! Upside, most of the above and with a few speedloaders you can quickly reload and if 357 is too much just load some good 38's!
 
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Single shot. size of a playing card. Ejector/extractor is any pen or pencil. 45 acp

one guy who owned one testified that he paid for it twice over by betting people they could not shoot, reload and shoot again in 5 minutes $10 at a time.

I guess $10 is not enough to subject oneself to such punishment a second time
 
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Dragline....wher have you been? Herrington & Richardson and Ivar Johnson are two firms that made .32 S&W revolvers a hundred years ago. You can still find them around.....I own two.
 
Dragline....wher have you been? Herrington & Richardson and Ivar Johnson are two firms that made .32 S&W revolvers a hundred years ago. You can still find them around.....I own two.
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I would like something more modern, think a thinned out scaled down J frame. Also with modern metallurgy and engineering it could be made stronger and with smaller dimensions than those of the past. Just look at how far these small pocket .380s and 9mm's have come. Something bigger than a NAA mini, and smaller than a J frame, would make a real nice BUG pocket revolver.
 
Taurus' .380 snub. Or its (<gasp><choke>) View.
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It's not much smaller if at all than the average .38 seeing as it uses the same diameter round for the most part. What makes a good pocket gun is it's width more so than it's length IMO.

The J frame is a beefed up I frame.
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The J frame is just barely bigger than the I frame.

I am talking something right inbetween a NAA mini and a J frame, neither of which the I frame or the Taurus .380 would fit the part.

Modern metallurgy doesn't trump Newtonian physics.
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Yeah but those old Iver Johnsons and H&R's aren't particularly the strongest guns, and the trigger pull is awful on them.
 
There is something to be said about "mass vs. velocity" here. The magnum cartridges try to wallop with speed while the big-bore stuff uses mass. Both have challenges in tiny guns. On velocity, a very short barrel means inefficiency in explosive potential. You have to increase the total charge to get a fraction of it in velocity, leading to incredible flash and ear-shattering report. Some manufacturers have tailored the powder or added flash suppressants to help with this, but it is still a consideration. On mass, a bigger bore means a bigger gun, which tends to be heavier and harder to carry concealed all day. It also usually translates to lower capacity with derringers being the extreme case.

There are also two other considerations. More "wallop" means more recoil, which impacts accuracy. It also demands a sturdier gun. Sturdier usually means heavier. Heavier helps with recoil but also detracts from ease of carry. Either way, it takes serious training to get good with a tiny gun.
 
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Do they make a mouse gun size with a wallop
Like a. 357 or something along those lines that fit in a pocket something more than a singleshot
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S&W360PD (or its predecessor, the 360sc) ... .357 in an 11oz gun. But it does have a "wallop" on both ends.
 
How small is small enough to be considered a 'mouse gun?'

S&W360PD (or its predecessor, the 360sc) ... .357 in an 11oz gun. But it does have a "wallop" on both ends.
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Anyone got full specs on the size of the gun? Light weight doesn't really matter to me as much, especially in a .357mag. I looked up some specs (see below) but I'm not sure how accurate they are.

From what I can tell something like a sig P239 is slimmer (1.3'' vs 1.2'') yet slightly longer(6.31 vs 6.6'') and taller(4.2'' vs 5.1'') than the S&W, and since The sig has got a 3.6'' barrel rather than a 1.875'' and no cylinder gap, the .357 sig may outperform the .357 mag in that platform with certain loads.
 
Ruger LCR is one. Haven't shot one yet.

Do have a Taurus (won it--price was right) 357 snubby
with a Polymer frame. Really not that bad. I've
shot it with 125 gr and 158 gr 357 ammo.
 
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How small is small enough to be considered a 'mouse gun?'
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Anyone got full specs on the size of the gun? Light weight doesn't really matter to me as much, especially in a .357mag.
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All I can tell you is that I've been carrying my S&W360sc J-Frame snubby (predecessor of the currently produced 360PD) in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster in the right front pocket of my Levi's for almost 20 years now (for a long time as my ONLY carried gun, but for the last 5 years or so, as my BUG). Initially I carried a steel Charter Arms snubby (around 15oz empty, I THINK), but I switched to the 11oz S&W aluminum/titanium snubbies (first, a .38, then a .357), and the lighter 11oz DEFINITELY made a big difference ... much less "pendulum" effect, especially in lighter, looser slacks. In my opinion, concealment and comfort of the 360sc are VERY good ... I later started carrying heavier and bigger guns (as my primary EDC) in OWB and IWB belt holsters, and the concealment was never good enough for me ... I ultimately went to a homemade, under-the-shirt vertical shoulder for those heavier, bigger guns, because it was the only solution that had the comfort and concealability that I wanted.
 
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Mouse size gun

I often carry my North American Arms 5 shot revolver .22 mag. The entire gun is 5.25 inches long. I also sent it back to the factory and had them make a .22 Long Rife cyclinder for it to keep my cost of plinking down. Just Google North American Arms.
 
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