Occasionally you can find a good deal at a gun show, but it's rare. Last one I found was a Taurus PT22PLY. In my area they sell for $259 to $279 depending on the shop. I found one at a local gun show for $210. Still new, box and manual all there. I asked about the price, the dealer said a lady put $50 down on one, he ordered it, then she changed her mind and bought something else. He just wanted to get his money out of it. I offered $200 and he took it.