Difference between the S&W Mod. 27 and 586?

[BigJimP]

As long as you had fun...it doesn't matter....
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I just finished up reloading about 40 boxes of .357 Mag...this afternoon, so I'm heading to the range in a few minutes ..for some Tactical Stress Reduction...with 6 boxes of ammo and...:

1. a 2 1/2" model 66-1 ( K frame)
2. a 4" model 19-1 Nickel ( K frame )
3. a 4" model 27-2 Nickel ( N frame )
4. a Freedom Arms single action - 4 3/4" - large frame...5 shot...( 55 oz of incredible craftsmanship )....

to have some fun / and burn up those 6 boxes....in and out of holsters../ maybe even some reload drills on the K and N frames ...( I'm slow, but so what )...and a big smile on my face - Before ....and After....
( I'll run a box thru each gun.../ running a timer...) and finish with whatever I want.../ or need to work more on...( my reloads with the Jet loaders...) probably....

and be home in time for a cold beer...a little grilled chicken & whatever else my wife felt like cooking today ....and she's making homemade blackberry jam right now....( my word, I lead a terrible life )...

 

[carguychris]

I don't think S&W made a seven shot N frame, have they?

No on the 7 shot N frame but they do make an 8 shot!!!

Also, 4V50 Gary, 7-shot M586's are quite rare; the 7-shot "Plus" configuration of the L frame wasn't introduced until after standard M586 production had ended. The only commonly encountered 7-shot model is the 3"bbl Performance Center L-Comp, and it's a stretch to call this gun "common".

7-shot M686's are abundant, and the now-discontinued L frame M619 & M620 were only produced in 7-shot form, but the M586 is a different story.

 

[KyJim]

In case it slipped by, the N-frame Model 27 has a larger grip frame area than the L-frame 586/686. The L-frames have the same size grip frame area as the K-frames. I have smallish hands so the target stocks on an N-frame are too big for me. I have to go with different stocks/grips.

 

[HKGuns]

Nothing better in the S&W line than the 27.

 

[jwise]

I'm not too worried about a large frame or a large grip; I am 6'3" 250lbs. The guys at one of the local shops thought a Desert Eagle "looked right" in my hands. I think an H&K Mk 23 has a nice size grip...

 

[Sevens]

HKGuns, those are two gorgeous pictures!

If I could be a little bit picky (let's call it "constructive criticism" ) it's that the phenomenal pictures show two great angles but neither image also shows off the one detail that the Model 27 has that sets it apart from so many other Smith & Wesson models, and that's the work on the top strap of the gun itself.

Very cool and classy feature, but that is not evident on your photos.

 

[jwise]

So I went back up to the local shop with the S&W Mod. 27. It is the 4" model. It is beautifully blued, with the top of the frame nicely detailed (as Sevens mentioned above).

It is gorgeous. But it is brand new. Therefore, the 'belly button' is right there above the cylinder release, with that stupid little arrow indicating what direction the numbskull using said lock needs to turn it.

I have a Taurus with one of those stupid locks, but (1) it is a Taurus, (2) it is on the hammer, and not prominent on the side, and (3) did I mention it was on a Taurus? It wasn't winning any awards for its beauty anyway. It's like the large WARNING on the Ruger revolvers. Who cares. It's on a Ruger.

So I handled the Mod. 27, and it is very nice in the hand. The cylinder is very large, and only holds six rounds. Seems like a waste of a giant cylinder to only hold six rounds, but oh well. This would be a range gun, and probably won't ever see the inside of a holster. The DA trigger pull was amazing. Really nice. Single action was stupid good (light & crisp).

While the lock is stupid, I don't know if I care enough to avoid it. On the other hand, I'm in no hurry, so I might as well have fun hunting an older one down.

Seriously, it was gorgeous.

 

[Sevens]

My opinion only:

the lock is not a problem. Ugly, sure, and that will vary by anyone/everyone. Me, personally, I simply do not feel that Smith & Wesson makes as good a revolver NOW as they did BEFORE, and much of that, while based in hands-on experience, is also very much formed around emotion.

Also true that I have mountains MORE experience with pre-lock guns than I do with newer, ILS-equipped guns.

Another way to put it that may express the idea better...
If all the pre-2001 Smith & Wesson revolvers were deleted from existence, then I'd be doing a lot of shopping for ILS-equipped newer Smith & Wesson revolvers, really.

However, as long as this world still has the MILLIONS of pre-lock S&W revolvers out there for varying/arguable prices, that's where 100% of my shopping goes when it comes to S&W revolvers. And I love S&W revolvers. And I will pay more money for a used pre-lock revolver than I would even consider ever paying for a newly built ILS-equipped revolver. But lucky for me, they typically cost the same or more often, less money.

To me, there's just no reason to chase a new one. However, some of the new models they are introducing right now and some of the new methods they are employing right now could absolutely change that for me. But not so far.

 

[BigJimP]

You won't find a model 27 that is not a 6 shot revolver....

....most of us that shoot revolvers, even one's we carry ...don't look at 6 shots as any kind of an issue .... ( and I'm not saying I carry a model 27, because I don't - even at 6'5" and 290 lbs the N frame, even in a 4", is too big for me to pack around).....if I carry a revolver - it is a K frame model 66 or 19 ...in a 2 1/2" or a 4" barrel with an Inside the Waist band....Kramer horsehide leather holster with a forward FBI tilt...

....but if you want to run the model 27 in and out of a holster...I'd suggest the older Nickel finishes....my nickel finishes / and my stainless guns see a lot of holster work / and show no signs of any holster wear.

A Freedom Arms I had made in .357 mag
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82010&d=1339790943

Some model 19's and 66's...( 2 in Nickel & 2 in stainless / a blued model 27 6" / an L frame 686 6"
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82015&d=1339792625

( my apologies on quality of photos / in order to get the forum to accept them I had to downgrade the pixels...or I don't know how to do it right ...)..

 

[WC145]

For the price of that new 27 you can find yourself a real nice old 27 and probably be happier with it. The 27 is the direct descendant of the original "Registered Magnum", and was S&W's flagship revolver forever with the finest bluing and the checkered top strap. Keep an eye on the classifieds on the S&W forum or post a wanted ad there and you'll find yourself a nice, original 27 that will be a pleasure to both own and shoot before too long.

 

[old bear]

Difference between the S&W Mod. 27 and 586?

The difference between the two is dramatic, Audi Vs. V.W., both are great cars but.

The M-27 has always been Smith and Wesson's flagship product, even outshining the venerated M - 29 .44 magnum. The M-27 is the only revolver to have full top strap checkering. The M-27's received an extra level of care in fitting and polishing.

The 586/686 were designed to replace the M 19/66 as service revolvers, and were excellent revolvers.

I have two M-27's and one M-586, and I can't say one is more accurate than the other, but there is something special about the feeling of shooting my M-27's.