I admit it, after one very bad time with a Taurus I now even think a Glock is much preferred. I was really interested in the Taurus Judge but some of the stories, well, what is what... I just do not need anything with horror stories around it. I have never been a Glock fan but you do not hear the same sort of tales about Glock. What do you buy new now?
Did not start as Taurus bash, but....
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Retired15T
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I prefer Springfield XD's to Glock's myself. Just recently picked up an XDm 9mm with 3.8" barrel and am having a blast with it at the range! I plan to eventually get an XDm .45 too. But I'm going to get a Glock 23 to fill that .40 cal niche in my collection.
SwampYankee
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You get what you pay for. Taurus is no exception to that rule.
I have personally done very well with new and used Ruger, Beretta and CZ. I have also had very good luck with used S&W's and used Colts. I would buy new S&W's but they are way over-priced these days for the quality you get. Of course, these are consumer grade high quality firearms. If you are looking to a more high end or custom item, there are dozens of manufacturers like Freedom Arms and Les Baer. Once again, you get what you pay for.
My only truly poor experience with a firearm has been a new model Charter Arms. I won't waste my time or money on those again. I've never even bothered with Taurus.
Frankly, I hardly ever buy new. I only do it when I can't find something used. 99% of firearms barely get fired. Even the ugly police trade-ins never got fired. You get a less expensive gun that shoots as well (if not better) than a new one. Why pay retail markup?
I have personally done very well with new and used Ruger, Beretta and CZ. I have also had very good luck with used S&W's and used Colts. I would buy new S&W's but they are way over-priced these days for the quality you get. Of course, these are consumer grade high quality firearms. If you are looking to a more high end or custom item, there are dozens of manufacturers like Freedom Arms and Les Baer. Once again, you get what you pay for.
My only truly poor experience with a firearm has been a new model Charter Arms. I won't waste my time or money on those again. I've never even bothered with Taurus.
Frankly, I hardly ever buy new. I only do it when I can't find something used. 99% of firearms barely get fired. Even the ugly police trade-ins never got fired. You get a less expensive gun that shoots as well (if not better) than a new one. Why pay retail markup?
DiscoRacing
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All I buy now says S&W on it.
rickyjames
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i've got a variety of springfield, colt, ruger, s&w, beretta, uberti, walther, unique and amt, pistols and revolvers. i also have a variety of taurus and rossie pistols and revolvers as well. i have never had a problem with taurus products, i find them reliable and accurate and my next purchase will be another taurus pistol. i've never owned one but don't care for glocks for no specific reason other than the feel in my hand. i guess everyone is entitled to dislike a gun for any reason the like.
Kreyzhorse
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It's hard to miss with a Ruger or S&W revolver. As far as semis go, its hard to miss with any of the main companies like Glock, Springfield, S&W or Ruger.
That is certainly not a complete list, but you do get what you pay for.
That is certainly not a complete list, but you do get what you pay for.
dairycreek
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I am now 73 and have been"fritzing" with this gun thing for a long, long time. Over the 73 years I have owned 6 Taurus revos (no autos) three of which were nice weapons and three of which were complete disasters. All were NIB when I bought them. The three that I sent back to Taurus illustrated just how bad their Customer Service was. Never got one of the three totally repaired. No more Taurus for me - ever!
"I have never been a Glock fan but you do not hear the same sort of tales about Glock."
Not any more, but for a while, if you believed the horror stories, the country was littered with blown up Glocks, and the hospitals were stuffed with blow-up victims. Small truth, big flap.
Taurus claims to be really working on their QC issue. (CS is secondary; if QC is good, there is little need for CS.) I hope they do work things out; I have seen top notch Taurus guns, but I have also seen Taurus products that obviously should not have left the factory.
Jim
Not any more, but for a while, if you believed the horror stories, the country was littered with blown up Glocks, and the hospitals were stuffed with blow-up victims. Small truth, big flap.
Taurus claims to be really working on their QC issue. (CS is secondary; if QC is good, there is little need for CS.) I hope they do work things out; I have seen top notch Taurus guns, but I have also seen Taurus products that obviously should not have left the factory.
Jim
As a former Taurus owner, I have said this many times:
I think Taurus is a company on the "edge". That is, on the edge of making really great pistols. They do have some very good designs, their material is up to par....no they are not made of pot metal. They just need to get their QC & CS up to good standards.
My observation is that most Taurus defects are due to not assembling or machining their pistols to their own prints and specs. In other words, poor workmanship defects. The fact that they do have some good designs is why you do find a Taurus that was assembled correctly to spec. will operate very reliably.
Bring in a group of Glock QC engineers to a Taurus factory and give them control of quality assurance, then you would probably have a pistol with competitive quality.
Last time I participated in a Taurus thread I said I will never ever get involved in a Taurus thread. This time I really mean it.
I think Taurus is a company on the "edge". That is, on the edge of making really great pistols. They do have some very good designs, their material is up to par....no they are not made of pot metal. They just need to get their QC & CS up to good standards.
My observation is that most Taurus defects are due to not assembling or machining their pistols to their own prints and specs. In other words, poor workmanship defects. The fact that they do have some good designs is why you do find a Taurus that was assembled correctly to spec. will operate very reliably.
Bring in a group of Glock QC engineers to a Taurus factory and give them control of quality assurance, then you would probably have a pistol with competitive quality.
Last time I participated in a Taurus thread I said I will never ever get involved in a Taurus thread. This time I really mean it.
Hi,
I am a old guy too. Just turned 60 years of age this year. I have owned guns since the early seventies. Long guns and hand guns. My first hand gun was a Ruger Mark 1 that I payed $60 and owned 15 years. Never had a problem with it. I also have had H&R revolvers. Again no issues with H&R revolvers. I did not get my first S&W until I was well into my adulthood. And like others I did own one Taurus revolver. I now own twelve handguns from Ruger and Smith to the lonely Hi Point and even a Phoenix Arms HP22A. I would say the Ruger is my number one gun for reliability and value. I love my Smiths but over the long haul I believe the Ruger will outlast a Smith. The one Taurus I had was a Tracker 627 4 inch revolver. Bought brand new. The features on the Tracker were great. However, the shell casings stuck so bad after firing the gun I had to pry the casing out with a knife or screwdriver!
I had my gun store send the gun twice to Taurus and Taurus never did fix the problem. Taurus would simply polish the cylinder bores and send the gun back. I finally traded the Taurus for a Smith and never looked back. I have seen Taurus products perform well. But if they need service good luck. Moral of the story. Generally, if a person buys a more expense gun then usually the gun will work better than a cheaper gun. But I believe the main thing that will keep me from buying the brand of gun again is service after the sale.
Regards,
roaddog28
I am a old guy too. Just turned 60 years of age this year. I have owned guns since the early seventies. Long guns and hand guns. My first hand gun was a Ruger Mark 1 that I payed $60 and owned 15 years. Never had a problem with it. I also have had H&R revolvers. Again no issues with H&R revolvers. I did not get my first S&W until I was well into my adulthood. And like others I did own one Taurus revolver. I now own twelve handguns from Ruger and Smith to the lonely Hi Point and even a Phoenix Arms HP22A. I would say the Ruger is my number one gun for reliability and value. I love my Smiths but over the long haul I believe the Ruger will outlast a Smith. The one Taurus I had was a Tracker 627 4 inch revolver. Bought brand new. The features on the Tracker were great. However, the shell casings stuck so bad after firing the gun I had to pry the casing out with a knife or screwdriver!
I had my gun store send the gun twice to Taurus and Taurus never did fix the problem. Taurus would simply polish the cylinder bores and send the gun back. I finally traded the Taurus for a Smith and never looked back. I have seen Taurus products perform well. But if they need service good luck. Moral of the story. Generally, if a person buys a more expense gun then usually the gun will work better than a cheaper gun. But I believe the main thing that will keep me from buying the brand of gun again is service after the sale. Regards,
roaddog28
Bat Masterson
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I have owned both S&W and Taurus products. The results:
S&W: Two revolvers, both worked, .38 needed a lot of polishing to get it smooth. One auto, a 4006, it was junk, sent it in due to reliability issues, came back the same as it went in.
Taurus: Two revolvers, both model 85s, both easily smoothed, both 100% reliable. One auto, PT99 9mm, 100% reliable, no problems.
Taurus lacks snob appeal, but they produce a solid product for less money than S&W. I have more confidence in Taurus; and, if you get a bad one, it's less of a loss than the S&W would have been.
S&W: Two revolvers, both worked, .38 needed a lot of polishing to get it smooth. One auto, a 4006, it was junk, sent it in due to reliability issues, came back the same as it went in.
Taurus: Two revolvers, both model 85s, both easily smoothed, both 100% reliable. One auto, PT99 9mm, 100% reliable, no problems.
Taurus lacks snob appeal, but they produce a solid product for less money than S&W. I have more confidence in Taurus; and, if you get a bad one, it's less of a loss than the S&W would have been.
Jeepin_Lawyer
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I've never had a problem with a Taurus but I also haven't bought 1 in yrs. Has the quality gone down or have I been lucky?
stargazer65
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You obviously haven't seen me shoot one at the range!
FreakGasolineFight
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Glock is better than Taurus, but so are most other guns. And a lot of those guns are better than Glock.