Did NBC David Gregory commit Felony on Live TV in Washington DC?

Gregg E. Meyer said:
Miss the point. Gregory should have the right to own a 30 round mag. Such laws clearly violate the intent of the 2nd Amend. in my opinion - despite Scalia arguing that some weaponery can be banned legitimately. A 30 round mag isn't a nuke.
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I'll go beyond that.

Although I know Frank Ettin will (because he has in the past) disagree, I remain of the belief that Mr. Justice Scalia erred very seriously and fundamentally when he penned the majority decision in Heller. The Constitution is the highest law of the land. My position is that we should be able to read any law according to what it says, and once we get past the militia clause, the language of the 2nd Amendment is about as clear and succinct as it can possible get: "The right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

There are no weasel words in there, no exceptions, no mention of "unreasonably infringed." It's an absolute statement imposing a blanket prohibition on infringements. And what is a regulation if not an infringement?

Frank argues that legal precedent has allowed other rights to be "reasonably" regulated. But what other right do we have that is specifically and explicitly protected against ANY regulation? Certainly not the 4th Amendment. That protects us against "unreasonable" searches and seizures, so that door is automatically open for the courts to then have to determine where the line is drawn between reasonable and unreasonable.

There is no such door in the 2nd Amendment. The Heller decision was wrong, flawed ... not because it correctly affirmed an individual right as opposed to a collective right tied to militia service, but because it ignored the plain language of the law and suggested that some regulations are Constitutional when the law itself plainly says they are not allowed.
 
There are no weasel words in there, no exceptions, no mention of "unreasonably infringed." It's an absolute statement imposing a blanket prohibition on infringements. And what is a regulation if not an infringement?
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If one insists that it is plain and simple and it means just what it says and you can't infer or speculate what the meaning is . then I believe it does not guarantee a lot of things the courts have said it does .

It does not say arms equal to the government it just says right to bare arms .so the government hands out one break front 22lr to every citizen and now there right to bare arms has not and will not ever be infringed. It does not say you can have as many as you want and any caliber as well . I find it funny when the pro guys find meaning and infrerence but when the antis try , we say oh no it does not say that .

It does not say alot of things . Be carefull what you wish for you just might get it .
 
When it comes to the Bill if Rights what is not mentioned is not restricted. It says a right to bear arms, so it is not up to the very govt we are suspicious of to determine which arms are to be borne. Just as it is not up to the govt to tell us what speech is permissible (liable and yelling Fire! cause real harm to others so it is not the words which are restricted but the endangering others). Especially not to restrict words which can defend against govt overreach!

The BoR was written to restrict federal govt and recognize the broad freedom of individuals and states.
 
Metal God said:
It does not say arms equal to the government it just says right to bare arms .so the government hands out one break front 22lr to every citizen and now there right to bare arms has not and will not ever be infringed. It does not say you can have as many as you want and any caliber as well . I find it funny when the pro guys find meaning and infrerence but when the antis try , we say oh no it does not say that .
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But we can trot out the contemporaneous writings of the people who wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to document that the 2nd Amendment did, in fact, mean every weapon available to the military. This has been well and thoroughly documented. Two such exhaustive studies have been compiled by the .gov itself. One was a Senate study written in 1982: http://www.guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html

More recently, the office of the Attorney General compiled an even long and more in-depth, scholarly study of the 2nd Amendment. That one can be read here: http://www.justice.gov/olc/secondamendment2.pdf
 
It probably won't accomplish much of anything, but I did just email the DC police department inquiring about the legality of a 30 round magazine in the District of Columbia, referencing David Gregory interviewing the president instead of spending a year in jail and paying a 1000 dollar fine.
 
The case is still under investigation according to politico.com but hasn't gone away. Progun legislators are expect to keep up scrutiny of how this plays out.
 
As i posted on the Politco, Many citizens fall victim to the DC gun laws each year. They typically are convicted and receive a stiff sentence.

NBC and Gregroy knowingly violated the DC Law. I believe their actions constitute a conspiracy. This makes the violation a felony in most jurisdictions. I know of no law which exempts the Press from abiding by the law. They may think otherwise but they are not exempted.

Every one involved in this violation should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
This situation puts me in a bit of a quandry. On the one hand, I'd like to see DC's ban on those magazines overturned. On the other hand, I don't think Gregory should get a pass just because he's a prominent member of the media.
 
Nothing happens to Gregory - then:

If Wayne LaP. or someone else from the NRA goes on a DC talk show, they should also take out a 30 round mag. Earn their money, and make the point of reasonable civil disobdience to an injust law.

If the civil rights activists could, so could Wayne.

How about the progun legislators, taken them out on the floor of Congress or the Senate?

I do recall that GWB had a Glock 18 presented to him in the White House, was that a crime?
 
MTP/NBC; The 4th Estate...

I honestly do not feel NBC News & David Gregory(who also serves as exec producer/editor if you read the credits) knowingly violated the law, they felt they were ABOVE the law. :(
The "triers of facts" must decide to prosecute the NBC staff.
Some journalists & media feel they can go anywhere or do anything. It's time public officials drew a line & showed they enforce the laws fairly.

I saw a "YouTube yo-yo" post a clip of him crying & yelping at a female CHP captain at a traffic accident scene. The uniformed CHP trooper calmly & politely asked the "freelance video-journalist" for media credentials.
The guy freaks out & screams about press credentials and his "PI having reports". The nitwit then calls the CHP Captain a "liar" & storms off.

Clyde
 
Glenn

President Bush, Saddam Hussein, and a Glock 18

Many American presidents have kept prized possessions within reach during their White House years. Franklin D. Roosevelt cherished a 19th century ship model of the U.S.S. Constitution. One of Dwight D. Eisenhower’s favorite gifts was an engraved Steuben glass bowl from his cabinet. And sitting on John F. Kennedy’s desk in the Oval Office was a paperweight made from a coconut shell he had carved with a distress message after his PT-109 was sunk during World War II.

The objects have been bequeathed to the American public, accessible through a visit to each man’s presidential library and museum. And so when the library for George W. Bush opens in 2013 on the campus of Southern Methodist University in Dallas, visitors will most likely get to see one of his most treasured items: Saddam Hussein’s pistol.

The gun, a 9 millimeter Glock 18C, was found in the spider hole where the Iraqi leader was captured in December 2003 by Delta Force soldiers, four of whom later presented the pistol to Mr. Bush. Among the thousands of gifts Mr. Bush received as president, the gun became a favorite, a reminder of the pinnacle moment of the Iraq war, according to friends and long-time associates.

Before Mr. Bush left the White House in January, he made arrangements for the gun to be shipped to a national archives warehouse just 18 miles north of his new home in Dallas. His foundation said a final decision had not been made on including the gun in the presidential library. But his associates and visitors to the White House said Mr. Bush had told them of his intention to display it there.

For nearly five years, Mr. Bush kept the mounted, glass-encased pistol in the Oval Office or a study, showing it with pride, especially to military officials, they said. He also let visitors in on a secret: when the pistol was recovered, it was unloaded. ...
http://artfularticulations.blogspot.com/2009/07/president-bush-saddam-hussein-and-glock.html

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My guess is that the Glock 18 has probably been deactivated in some way.

In any case, it's not nearly on par with the cool guns Teddy Roosevelt had.
 
off-topic; Bush P-35 9mmNATO...

To my knowledge, POTUS Bush(aka W) also had Saddam's Hi-Power 9mm sidearm too. I saw the news clip where Bush talked about the pistol. I think he gave that custom HP pistol to the NRA headquarters & museum in VA.
Clyde
 
I do recall that GWB had a Glock 18 presented to him in the White House, was that a crime?
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The machine gun ban doesn't apply to military and law enforcement. Since the president is commander-in-chief, it wouldn't apply to him.
 
I just received this response from the DC police:
The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding the David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazine is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.



Customer Service – Metropolitan Police Department
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