Detonics STX contender entry for the military pistol replacement

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Uncle Malice

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Just came across this. I've never given much thought to Detonics, but this might actually be a cool pistol. I don't think it will win the military submission... but perhaps the design will go public?

It looks like a stylized 1911 slide with a double stack magazine. It looks to have a 1911-style trigger but is also striker fired. It certainly seems innovative, if nothing else.

Full article here: http://www.stltoday.com/business/lo...cle_e19508e1-bc8e-57d3-acea-45538a604179.html

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It looks a little aesthetically unbalanced to me... somehow... awkward. And what is the point of that big beaver tale if there is no hammer? It may be a great gun, but I just can't get around the way it looks.
 
If they cut the beaver tail inwards and kept the grip profile, it would be reminiscent of the PPX.

I'm not sure I understand the purpose behind making it striker fired, but it looks impressive otherwise
 
It looks a little aesthetically unbalanced to me... somehow... awkward. And what is the point of that big beaver tale if there is no hammer? It may be a great gun, but I just can't get around the way it looks.
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...All the more reason for the military to like it.

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Kinda my thoughts. It's certainly a little different aesthetically.... but it might very well hit the nail on the head - assuming it does have an excellent trigger. I'm sure this is a prototype version as well so we can probably expect some changes.

- good serrations
- good sights
- flat trigger (hopefully good break)
- striker fired
- high capacity
- rail
- metal frame(some people consider this a big plus - I don't care either way)

I'm not fawning over it by any means, but it's interesting and I wouldn't mind checking one out.
 
Detonics? At their peak, they had trouble turning out 2,000 units per year. In fact, they tended to run out of boxes to ship them in. I can't see them being able to reliably supply a military contract.

Even if they were a serious contender, there are issues of support and parts to consider.
 
I'm not sure I understand the purpose behind making it striker fired
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Considerably fewer parts, I'd expect, which could reduce cost not only for the parts, but assembly of the parts, logistics during the entire life-cycle and maintenance of the weapon.

While the whale tail does crack me up, I like to shake the hand of whoever decided the trigger guard didn't need to be square or have a big hook in it--once that crap got started in the late 70s or 80s...whenever it was...well, there was no shutting it down. Glad to see someone at least is trying to weed that out of the gene pool.
 
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Detonics? At their peak, they had trouble turning out 2,000 units per year. In fact, they tended to run out of boxes to ship them in. I can't see them being able to reliably supply a military contract.

Even if they were a serious contender, there are issues of support and parts to consider.
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That's where the wonderful world of licensing comes in.

"Hey, Colt, you want our government contract to try to save your butt? We'll take 9% off the top, and you can have the rest..."
 
It looks to me like a pistol that is cobbled together from different designs. It doesn't seem to have a unifying flow to it other than geometric shapes.
 
If they could just weed out the sharp pointed elongated beaver tail.

Why would the military want such a sharp pointed end protruding from a holster to possibly be an additional hazard to the carrier particularly during airborne operations, explosions and other jarring events?

If there is a legitimate need for elongated beaver tails (other than cosmetic appeal) then put a blunt end on it. :confused:
 
It looks to me like a pistol that is cobbled together from different designs.
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YES!!! Now I know where I saw that grip before!! Remember those 'pop' guns from the old days where you'd load 'em with a ping pong ball then squeeze the grip, the air pressure would fire out the ball? That's where I've seen that grip before.
 
If they could just weed out the sharp pointed elongated beaver tail.

Why would the military want such a sharp pointed end protruding from a holster to possibly be an additional hazard to the carrier particularly during airborne operations, explosions and other jarring events?

If there is a legitimate need for elongated beaver tails (other than cosmetic appeal) then put a blunt end on it.
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With no exposed hammer on the firearm, the beaver tail provides an additional means of retention in the holster.
...Something that all branches of service are very keen about.
 
That design dates to about 2011... it was supposed to be the new Detonics company's comeback... don't think it ever happened.

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Don't know much of anything about Detonics guns, but I am curious, does anyone know what prompted the military's decision to change sidearms?
 
does anyone know what prompted the military's decision to change sidearms?
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Looking to go back to 45 from 9mm. Given that they are limited to FMJ only, 9mm is woefully ineffective.

That isn't a dig at 9mm. I love it. using modern JHP ammunition it performs very well. Military can't do that. 45 still performs decently in FMJ.
 
Last I looked at Detonics' website was a month or two ago. They talk about what they want to do in 2014 -- website not updated.

It doesn't look like much is going on.
 
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