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American Derringer Models 4 & 6 in .45 Colt/.410ga

I own both the Model 4 (4 inch barrel) and Model 6 (6 inch barrel). I've had them now for several years now and I have a few user comments to share. The accuracy of these two longer barrel derringers is better than the Model 1. (BTW, I am told the Model 8 is very stable and "match" accurate with the oversized grips.) I've found that trigger control is an absolute necessity to be accurate. Squeeze the trigger without "expectation" (no nervous jerking) and the result will be pleasantly surprising. I'm 6 ft/215 lbs, so I have the necessary grip for this type of weapon.

I did have to replace the standard grips on the Model 6 with the oversized ones and it shoots well, even one handed. I can consistently hit 3 to 4 inch groups up to 25 yards. Admittedly, this took practice. I have shot the .45 "Long" Colt (or Colt), but prefer the "shorter" .45 Schofield cartridge. This cartridge is a little more tame and provides less barrel climb than its larger brother. The .410 rounds are just for close defense and essentially make either derringer a hand cannon.

The Schofield cartridge can be found on-line (Cabela's, etc.) and are a little pricey compared to other handgun loads. Reloading is my key to keeping the price down.

I've owned the Bond Arms Derringer, and although it performs well and is a safe(r) weapon, it is a "brick" compared to the American Derringer. The Bond, profiles a lot more than the American Derringer. I wear the A.D. either concealed, right side or in driver cross draw, or in my left boot (inner side... so I can withdraw while I'm down on my right knee), primarily as my back-up piece. I couldn't conceal the heavier made Bond very easily and sold it last year.

My primary concealed pistol is a Walther PPS (.40S&W) or the Para Odnance Carry 6.45 LDA.

I also like the Model 6 American Derringer on certain occasions, because it can fit in the front pocket of my blue jeans and the handle just barely sticks out the edge of the pocket, making it easy to grab and bring to bear.
 
To me there is a point at which smaller & lighter no longer has value. Whether something is 18oz or 14oz, I find it just doesn't matter. When something is under a 5"x4" footprint and under 18oz. getting lighter or smaller doesn't make much of a difference.

If I went from a 5.2" x 4" pistol to a 4.84" x 3.3" I wouldn't suddenly say "Wow ! what a difference !" They are both little pistols that are going to fit in a pocket. The same thing with going from 18oz to 14.5oz. It's not like 3.5oz is suddenly going to make my pants fall down.

I admit to thinking that the little guns are cool, but every time I've thought about buying one I've thought "These are not going to be fun to shoot at the range", "If I'm serious about CC then, for a few hundred bucks more there are way better options than a 2-shot pistol."

The other thing that bugs me about many "Derringers" is the exposed trigger. Something about it just makes me uneasy and no amount of understanding how the safety works etc.. is going to make me comfortable.

I don't know just my opinion.

I came very close to buying one in 9mm for no other reason than I thought it would be cool to have one. Gosh, reading this thread made me go out to Cobra's site to look at their derringers and I have to admit that for no logical reason I'd like one of their 9mm. But, for slightly more weight, slightly more size (and a lot more cash) I could get a Rohrbaugh which gives me an additional 5 rounds of ammo in roughly the same size footprint.
 
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Bond Century 2000
Caliber:9mm (also 40S&W,10mm and .45 ACP)
Barrel: 3.5in
Length: 5.5in
Weight: 21 oz.
Capacity:2

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Rohrbaugh R9
Caliber:9mm
Barrel:2.9in
Length:5.2in
Height:3.7in
Weight:13.5oz
Capacity:6+1 Rounds


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In this case you actually have a semi-auto that is about 1/4" shorter and 7.5 oz lighter than a "derringer" and it holds 5 more rounds of ammo.

This is why it's hard for me to buy a derringer even though I think they're neat.


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I came across this YouTube video of a couple shooting Cobra 9mm derringers - the guy points a loaded & cocked derringer to his left - along the firing line, after the second shot.

No AD (or negligent discharge as some insist on saying), but thank the range owner that the shooting positions are separated by steel plates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K35-OjP5Yg&NR=1
 
The new derringers are neat guns, but the large bore models are almost as big as a "J" frame S&W and weigh as much, too.
Derringers are single action and usually very hard to cock, and harder to shoot well.
I see absolutely no reason to carry one for self defense. There are much better options available.
I carry a Keltec P32.
 
KelTec 380 very popular in Fl. and else where . I have one in pocket no matter what's on hip majority of time.. They ain't all pretty but they work
 
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