stickhauler
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I don't know, some of us live in this country called the United States, where you don't have to have a government issued card to buy a firearm. I'd say most folks who don't have a CCW consider it a safety measure for someone who has decided to carry a firearm for self defense. I doubt those same people consider a government issued card necessary to simply buy a gun, or ammo.
Granted, in the America most of us would rather live in, the 2nd amendment would suffice for a concealed (or open carry) of a firearm for self defense. The day I have to hold a government permission slip to even buy ammo, whether they write the info down or not, is the day I'm actively advocating taking back our country by whatever means necessary.
So tell me, with the murder rate Chicago has, with even stricter laws than the rest of Illinois, how's that FOID card idea working out keeping guns out of the hands of felons? Not too good in my opinion. You know why? Because criminals tend to not really care too much about gun laws (or most other laws for that matter).
Frankly, (again, in my opinion), your state would be better off without the liberal (and illogical) stances of politicians from that cesspool they call Chicago. We've got nutcase legislators from the major metro areas of the Buckeye, some who believe they have the right to enforce their own little fiefdom rules in spite of preemption laws. But the rest of us don't have to suffer from them unless we decide to venture into those cities.
I recall well the fight your state fought to get rid of the idiotic split-speed limit laws you had, passing legislation to rescind the laws, only to see them vetoed by the governor. Then, they tried to over-ride the vetoes, to see that fail because of resistance from Chicago-area politicians. Their argument? Well, if it was allowed to pass, Chicago would have a blood-bath on their freeways because of vehicles operating at a higher speed. Never mind the fact that Chicago and all urban areas in the state had and still have a 55 MPH speed limit within city limits. Though, in the case of Chicago, before and after the law was changed, nobody actually drives at that speed. If you drive through Chicago at any time other than rush hour, and go 55 MPH, prepare to either get ran over, or flipped off by 95 year old people screaming at you to "get the lead out."
Granted, in the America most of us would rather live in, the 2nd amendment would suffice for a concealed (or open carry) of a firearm for self defense. The day I have to hold a government permission slip to even buy ammo, whether they write the info down or not, is the day I'm actively advocating taking back our country by whatever means necessary.
So tell me, with the murder rate Chicago has, with even stricter laws than the rest of Illinois, how's that FOID card idea working out keeping guns out of the hands of felons? Not too good in my opinion. You know why? Because criminals tend to not really care too much about gun laws (or most other laws for that matter).
Frankly, (again, in my opinion), your state would be better off without the liberal (and illogical) stances of politicians from that cesspool they call Chicago. We've got nutcase legislators from the major metro areas of the Buckeye, some who believe they have the right to enforce their own little fiefdom rules in spite of preemption laws. But the rest of us don't have to suffer from them unless we decide to venture into those cities.
I recall well the fight your state fought to get rid of the idiotic split-speed limit laws you had, passing legislation to rescind the laws, only to see them vetoed by the governor. Then, they tried to over-ride the vetoes, to see that fail because of resistance from Chicago-area politicians. Their argument? Well, if it was allowed to pass, Chicago would have a blood-bath on their freeways because of vehicles operating at a higher speed. Never mind the fact that Chicago and all urban areas in the state had and still have a 55 MPH speed limit within city limits. Though, in the case of Chicago, before and after the law was changed, nobody actually drives at that speed. If you drive through Chicago at any time other than rush hour, and go 55 MPH, prepare to either get ran over, or flipped off by 95 year old people screaming at you to "get the lead out."
