Stevie-Ray
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If I have a misfire, I wait a full minute, and even that's not long enough if you believe the gunwriters. I have had hangfires before, but never a full minute later.
Delayed fire 20-30 seconds
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RyanAnchors
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Hang fire is scary as hell. I'm glad I've never had one.
They can be a big problem.
That is why after a FTF, it is recommended to wait up to two minutes with the firearm pointing downrange, but most people go with about 30 seconds and call it a day.
They have taken longer before though.
God forbid that thing went off when you had just started to pull the slide or worse yet gone off when the muzzle was in an unsafe direction.
Your dad taught you well.
They can be a big problem.
That is why after a FTF, it is recommended to wait up to two minutes with the firearm pointing downrange, but most people go with about 30 seconds and call it a day.
They have taken longer before though.
God forbid that thing went off when you had just started to pull the slide or worse yet gone off when the muzzle was in an unsafe direction.
Your dad taught you well.
In the military I was taught to wait a full minute if a cartridge would not go off. That was under range conditionss, of course.
I always heeded that with a rifle and had several slight hang fires with 8x57 IS surplus, just a one, or two seconds delay. That was at the most flinch control.
With a .303 I had one cartridge go off after at least 45 seconds, right after I had unlocked the action by turning the bolt, but not pulling it back.
I caught the recoil with my hand and it wasn't a hard push.
I always heeded that with a rifle and had several slight hang fires with 8x57 IS surplus, just a one, or two seconds delay. That was at the most flinch control.
With a .303 I had one cartridge go off after at least 45 seconds, right after I had unlocked the action by turning the bolt, but not pulling it back.
I caught the recoil with my hand and it wasn't a hard push.
A hang fire can be caused by several things...
In military ammunition improper storage , heat humidity handling can cause the priming compound and the powder to deteriorate over time, leading to inconsistent ignition.
Wartime ammunition produced under pressure to get it into the hands of the troops, can lead to reduced quality control in the name of productivity. Smaller quantities of primer compound in the primer cup, excessive force when seating primers can lead to the shattering of the compound and causing it to gather at the lowest point when the rifle is shouldered. Thicker primer cups, light strikes from the firing pin.
Excessive vibration is not good for ammunition as it can cause the powder to change form, by rubbing against each individual grain with in the case or having the fine residue gather in the base of the case. this too can cause inconsistent performance.
Sometimes the priming compound itself is unstable and begins to chemically degrade and do so in a relatively short time, the chemicals used in powder production can if they begin to break down attack the priming compound, you also have outside contamination by moisture or oils during manufacture.
Then there is the case itself, deep primer pockets, smaller or deeper anvil in Berdan cases, off set flash holes.
Then you have the chance that it was an outright bad lot of ammunition that made it out into the market, due to the test lots drawn from within this particular batch being of sufficient quality to meet the minimum requirements.
In military ammunition improper storage , heat humidity handling can cause the priming compound and the powder to deteriorate over time, leading to inconsistent ignition.
Wartime ammunition produced under pressure to get it into the hands of the troops, can lead to reduced quality control in the name of productivity. Smaller quantities of primer compound in the primer cup, excessive force when seating primers can lead to the shattering of the compound and causing it to gather at the lowest point when the rifle is shouldered. Thicker primer cups, light strikes from the firing pin.
Excessive vibration is not good for ammunition as it can cause the powder to change form, by rubbing against each individual grain with in the case or having the fine residue gather in the base of the case. this too can cause inconsistent performance.
Sometimes the priming compound itself is unstable and begins to chemically degrade and do so in a relatively short time, the chemicals used in powder production can if they begin to break down attack the priming compound, you also have outside contamination by moisture or oils during manufacture.
Then there is the case itself, deep primer pockets, smaller or deeper anvil in Berdan cases, off set flash holes.
Then you have the chance that it was an outright bad lot of ammunition that made it out into the market, due to the test lots drawn from within this particular batch being of sufficient quality to meet the minimum requirements.
