Decisions Decisions.. Brake or weapon light?

The SPR is the Navy's version of an 18" medium range sniper/marksmans rifle. While the #12 variation may have the Ops brake on it, that doesn't mean it's particularly suited for team or urban use - exactly when you might need a light.

Muzzle brakes with lots of side blast aren't used in CQB teamwork, you don't want to be stacked in a team with one next to your helmet. The Levang forward or standard flash hider is preferred. Cost also gets into the equation - for $180, you don't get 15X the recoil reduction of GI, and the AR15 isn't known as a major recoil producer. Brakes on them are upper tier parts used by competitors on three gun ranges, or those with the need for multiple shots. Unless you're prairie dog hunting - which wasn't mentioned - then the actual value of the brake won't ever be realized.

As for lighting up a coyote, there's the Gen III nightvision to consider, or infrared, or in combination. Any good red light would do otherwise.
 
I think the "no light on weapon" stems from the "don't identify your target, just shoot at them in the dark" mindset.


Blackops, I haven't used my x300 past 50 yards but I can tell you it illuminates a little better than a 4 D-cell Maglite. That's the best comparison I can make.
 
tirod said:
The SPR is the Navy's version of an 18" medium range sniper/marksmans rifle. While the #12 variation may have the Ops brake on it, that doesn't mean it's particularly suited for team or urban use - exactly when you might need a light.

Muzzle brakes with lots of side blast aren't used in CQB teamwork, you don't want to be stacked in a team with one next to your helmet. The Levang forward or standard flash hider is preferred. Cost also gets into the equation - for $180, you don't get 15X the recoil reduction of GI, and the AR15 isn't known as a major recoil producer. Brakes on them are upper tier parts used by competitors on three gun ranges, or those with the need for multiple shots. Unless you're prairie dog hunting - which wasn't mentioned - then the actual value of the brake won't ever be realized.

As for lighting up a coyote, there's the Gen III nightvision to consider, or infrared, or in combination. Any good red light would do otherwise.

Right you are. This light (M300A) is for my 14.5" BCM, remember i have two ARs. I'll be putting the M600c on the 18" sometime in the future. But the ops inc brake and collar is a definite. The value will certainly be realized because i can pick up a 12th model suppressor for around 750-800ish. That can't be said for the m4-2000, the KAC NT4, or the Griffen armament M4SD. The 18" was a mk12 mod 1 clone from the get go, there is no changing that, whether the brake does it's job or not it's going on there is my point. Not to sound stubborn but as i said i've had this planned as a mk12 mod 1 clone for some time now.

As for nightvision i looked into it and can't afford it, not what i want anyway. I was going to split it with my father but quality NV day/night systems are 7000+ which i can't afford or stomach at the time being.
 
Explain, please.
It's pretty simple. I walk into a dark room with a light, the only thing I can see is what the light illuminates. However, anyone else in the room knows exactly where I am and what I'm doing. In other words, I'm the easy target. No thanks.
 
It's pretty simple. A light like the x300 will light up every thing in the room. Anyone the light is pointed directly at will probably be blinded if their eyes have adjusted to the dark.
 
And you never leave your light one while moveing.

Use a momentary switch. Aim at target, light on for blinding/target identification, if threat is hostile FIRE.

People talk like haveing a light on a rifle means you walk around with it on constantly.:rolleyes:
 
Yeah pressure switch is useful hehe. I just ordered the light for 237$ retail is 345$ feel like it was a pretty good deal.
 
Positive target acquisition and identification is a prerequisite to pulling the trigger. I don't know how you do that in the dark without a light. I guess I haven't gotten that far in my ninja training.

If I have in my hands a rifle and a light, we are down to shoot/don't shoot decisions. I'm not walking around with the light on, all my rifle lights are press on/release off. The delay between I light up the target with the light and I light up the target with the lead is very, very brief. I'm a lot more worried about positive target identification than I am about letting the bad guys know I'm there. They will know I'm there. That's why I'm there.
 
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