Decisions Decisions.. Brake or weapon light?

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5RWill

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Got some Christmas money ready to put into my SPR and can't decide whether to spend 180$ on the Ops Inc. Brake to finish the gun physically. Or get a surefire M300A which i found 100$ cheaper than retail on ebay new for 245$. One in FDE and one in black. If i went the Ops. Inc rout i would spend the remaining money on a magpul MIAD, Magpul enhanced trigger guard, and then 500rds of LC XM855 from ammunitiontogo.

What would you do?
 
I mostly think lights on rifles don't serve a purpose, but I suppose sometimes they do.

Not my thing...but...if you plan on getting both eventually anyway and you found a good deal on the light, I'd get that first.
 
Put a proper flash hider on your rifle.

Muzzle brakes are for jerks and magnum rifles. Unless you live where flash hiders are prohibited. Even then, they are nearly useless on a SPR type rifle aside from making the person next to you reconsider being your friend.

I once owned a Wilson Combat upper that had a very effective brake on it. Did it cut down on recoil? Maybe a little bit. The bolt/carrier and buffer moving back and forth cause more movement than the blast at the muzzle.
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I like my Surefire 300. I don't remember what I paid for it but it was a lot more than $245.

I use a Smith Vortex flash hider on my 14.5" AR and it seems to work as advertized as far as eliminating muzzle flash. I have never fired it in total darkness so I don't know how well it works at night.
 
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Ouch...im about to become a muzzle brake jerk.

Re: lights on rifles... night hunting like for hogs is the most practical use that came to mind.
 
Put a proper flash hider on your rifle.

Muzzle brakes are for jerks and magnum rifles. Unless you live where flash hiders are prohibited. Even then, they are nearly useless on a SPR type rifle aside from making the person next to you reconsider being your friend.
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I don't have a public range i have the farm so people getting annoyed are not a concern. This is a mk12 mod 1 build the ops inc brake and collar is a done deal. Everyone's entitled to their opinions but jerks?
 
Everyone's entitled to their opinions but jerks?
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Wait, what?

Every one is entitled to their opinion. And if you shoot next to someone with a brake on their 5.56 rifle your opinion of them will likely be "That guy is a jerk"

:p
 
Yes.


I was just saying i wouldn't call them jerks regardless of how annoying it is. I've shot beside brakes before. I'm not going to say it's pleasant because it's not but i understand why they're used on certain calibers, even 5.56 or 7.62x51mm I'm running a SM556 on my 14.5 BCM recoil impulse is non existent and follow up shots are very very quick. That conversation is for another day though :)

Found another one for 235$. These are on ebay they're new but still on ebay so i'm a little skeptic.
 
If your rifle has any self-defense application, a light is a must.
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This. Those who would do evil enjoy the cover of darkness. A firearm without a light to identify the target is useless.
 
5.56 brake

Willie said:
Wait, what?

Every one is entitled to their opinion. And if you shoot next to someone with a brake on their 5.56 rifle your opinion of them will likely be "That guy is a jerk"
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Amazing how many people want to stand next to a 50 BMG (with a big brake) when it fires.......but never for a second shot :)
 
Think i'm going to go with the light the brake can come later. Anyone know what kind of range i'm going to get with the M300A 110 lumens? I can't seem to find videos demonstrating it beyond 50m and guess i haven't read any reviews.
 
Noise from a muzzle brake depends on the design of the brake. If it ports out the side through large dump ports and you're next to it - you're right it's noisy. The BattleComp compensators are much less noisy as they have multiple small openings over the length of the brake plus porting through the front. The DPMS Levang compensator ports out the front only and is no more noisy than the gun with a flash hider.

I use the BattleComp 1.5 and find it works well as a muzzle brake / flash hider. While the gun sounds somewhat different, it is no more noisy than the gun with the factory flash hider. I like muzzle brakes on an AR as they allow faster follow up shots because you have nearly zero muzzle rise.
 
if your thinking about a weapons light, I can only imagine that your planning on needing it in the dark for one reason or another. In which case I think a flash hider might be better for you. You wont blind yourself and you will be less likely to be spotted by whatever your shooting at (if your light isnt on of course :D ). Not sure if that actually matters to you, but if it does, its a good thing to think about.
 
The PWS SM556 is perma welded on there. A KAC NT4 will follow my 14.5 build in a couple of years. Honestly the SM556's flash signature is pretty low at night. This AR will be used for self defense but in all honesty it will get more use out at the farm at night. Beavers, coyotes, nutra rats, etc. Now that predator season is open in MS on private land, weapon light sounds like a good edition. I honestly hope i never see the day where i have to use my AR in a HD situation. One because i don't have a desire to have to take someone's life of course, and then the later which is... shooting a AR inside.. it's loud enough outside. I don't see myself taking time to put earplugs in if someone comes knocking, not to mention dulling my situation awareness by plugging my ears.

I use the BattleComp 1.5 and find it works well as a muzzle brake / flash hider. While the gun sounds somewhat different, it is no more noisy than the gun with the factory flash hider. I like muzzle brakes on an AR as they allow faster follow up shots because you have nearly zero muzzle rise.
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I was just looking at the battlecomp series and the griffen armament m4-sd and if my SM556 wasn't perma welded i would get one. It will definitely be going on my SBR.
 
redstategunnut said:
If your rifle has any self-defense application, a light is a must
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We learned in the '60s that the enemy could range on the spotlights we carried on our tanks. I learned in the '80s that a guy with a white light on his rifle was the easiest target on the battlefield.

It's a choice you've gotta make. See or be seen.
 
If a shooter with a brake on his rifle is a "jerk"...

What is the "Rambo" jagoff next to me that feels he needs to rapid fire the entire clip out of his AR or AK?

Point is, deal with it, or find another place to shoot. I don't particularly like getting hit with flying brass either, but it happens...

Sorry...back on topic.

There are brakes which are designed to reduce felt recoil, and others that direct the gases to reduce muzzle rise and keep the rifle on target for follow up shots.
Pick the one that best suits your need.
 
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