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Even my university - in a very conservative state, to boot - does not allow firearms on campus. Absurd policy. My brother went to a Utah university that was fine with it, and about half the student body carried with no incidents recorded. I was quite jealous, and I am always upset that my entire gun collection gets left for 9 months out of the year unless I go home or check them in at the University Police.
 
This is a case in which I think pepper spray is a much better choice than a firearm. There may be many threats where deadly force is not justifiable, so the pepper spray may be a easier defense option.

When in doubt, spray and retreat.
 
Quite frankly the idea of of a kid "carrying" is idiotic and I'm trying to be nice here.

Your baby girl either has the common sense to stay out of trouble prone situations or she doesn't. The girls who allow themselves to get into stupid situations don't have the sense to carry a firearm.

The idea of girls packing guns around a college campus would freak me out worse than what didn't seem to happen to my daughter. Just being honest here, I can't imagine my daughter or any of her friends packing, they are too ditzy and I haven't seen many at that age who aren't.

The majority of trouble a girl is going to get into they generally bring on themselves and the date rape isn't going to be helped by having a gun when the girl lets things go to far in the first place because they didn't know when to stop it.

Even in a Columbine type situation I'd rather my kid low key and minimized position in order to be one of the survivors than try to draw a gun and bring on focused assault.

Your daughter is not you and trying to profile her as something she more than likely is not will bring on far more trouble than it ever prevents. I cannot imagine it's legal for a kid to carry a firearm on campus and I don't or wouldn't want my kid on a campus where it is.

The few incidents that took place on a college equates to deciding you aren't flying because you heard of a few plane crashes. Stuff happens and it's the way it is.

Nuff said, that borders into psycho talk to advocate kids at college carrying guns unless they have the ability to do it legally.
 
I don't agree with all of the above statements but I do agree that students carrying guns on campus is not a good idea. Anyone who has been to college know that a large majority of the students attending especially underclassmen are not as mature as they should be. Sure there are people at that age mature enough to carry, but seeing as I have personally seen fights break out over the absolutely dumbest things imaginable while I was in college I know that if some of these kids carried guns it would have been much more than a fist fight. Just my 2 cents.
 
If she's living on campus, don't even try it.
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AA +1.
In the state of North Carolina it is a felony for anyone other than a sworn L/E to have a firearm on any university property, concealed or not. I would think that most states have similar laws.
 
So, if you're in college you're not mature enough to carry or own a firearm, even if you're legally allowed to elsewhere? Are you mature enough only when you're not attending classes?

If it's legal, it's legal, period. If there's one place that firearms carry should be more prevalent, it's at colleges, in my opinion. Having gone to a university that recommends girls not travel across campus at night and has to have campus police phones every hundred feet or so because of the high incidence of rape and attack, I can't see why we would disallow responsible adults the right to defend themselves just because they are getting a higher education. Even without taking into account things like the VA Tech shootings, as far as I'm concerned, we are creating an environment ripe for predators.

My suggestion is also to first make sure it's legal, it is on many campuses. If it is legal, then my next suggestion is also to make sure she is comfortable with the weapon, lastly I'd suggest a "mouse-gun" of some sort, probably a Kel-tec. If she can't fit it in her party outfit, it's not going to go with her to most of the places she'll need it.

Also she needs to have a good understanding of the very serious consequences of alcohol use and firearm possession.

Just my opinion.
 
So, if you're in college you're not mature enough to carry or own a firearm, even if you're legally allowed to elsewhere? Are you mature enough only when you're not attending classes?
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+1! That same idea has been floating around my noggin ever since that guy twisted off down at the UT Austin campus (recently, not in '66). I saw a interviewee (Sr.) that said that it was just too scary to imagine college students with firearms. What? Do they get a 500cc injection of maturity only when they receive their diplomas? What about the kids of the same age who are in the Military, or LE work, or Boy Scout, 4H, FFA, or NRA competitions? I didn't go to a 4yr university- did I get my Maturity Injection in basic training, 25th Division, Ft Knox, Iraq? No, I'm pretty sure I was taught firearms responsibility some 36yrs ago when I got my first .22 and Dad gave me that long talk about "Son, when you pull that trigger- no amount of wishing in the world will bring that bullet back. If it hits a person, then dead is dead- and it'll only be you to answer for it."
 
If you read my post and not in between the lines you would have understood what I said. I did not generalize and say if your in college your not mature enough to carry a gun. I said from personal experience a majority of college kids, and as I stated especially underclassmen usually age 18-20 are not mature enough to carry a gun. I also stated that there are plenty of people within that age limit mature enough to do so, but the majority I have come across I find are not. I would appreciate if you would not twist my words.
 
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Always Check The Law First

Even if someone is emotionally mature enough to handle it properly, including when it would be used, etc., it is always wise to check the local laws there to see if it is even legal on that campus.

For instance, in the state where I am located, the state law generally makes possession of a firearm on school grounds a crime (misdemeanor if unloaded, felony if loaded), but does provide an exception for certain CCW holders.
 
Cool_Hand - assuming you're replying to me, please note that I did not quote your post, that you are not the only person who voiced concern about college students and guns and that I used no words other than my own, so the twisting bit isn't really a possibility. If you believe that I was using the word mature as a means of singling you out, then please understand that I was not.

Also, please note that you wrote:

I do agree that students carrying guns on campus is not a good idea.
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and that it was completely unqualified with any statement about the 18-20 year age range. There was, however, an attempt to bolster the argument with the inclusion of underclassmen as an example of maturity.

All that being said, it is still legal for 18-20 year old adults to own and carry handguns in some places, so my position remains the same - either make it illegal for a just reason or make it legal and teach some responsibility.

As a bit of anecdotal evidence that all young adults are not irresponsible, violent miscreants, I submit that I managed to get through my teens and early 20's without shooting anyone on a college campus, owning firearms all the while. I'm guessing that most of the people on this board, as well as the vast majority of legal firearms owners in the United State have also managed to get through those turbulent times without shooting up a college campus.

If you were not replying to me, please disregard and have a good day.
 
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I live in a college town(UGA- University of Georgia), and I went to school here some years ago. I'm not saying that random crime doesn't happen, it does, but the vast majority of the bad things that happen to our young adults here happen because they put themselves in situations that compromise their personal security.

To anyone going to college:

Be smart. Use the campus security vans, buses, etc. to travel after hours if offered. If you're worried about walking to your car at night, call campus police - they'll be happy to provide you an escort.

Be responsible for your own wellbeing!

The vast majority of cases that I see here are young folks who become impaired through alcohol/drugs to the point that they don't know what they are doing, making them easy victims for those who prey on others.

Have fun, experiment all you like, that's what these years are for, just don't blame others if you put yourself in a situation where you can be exploited. Understand that you are now in the real world, and it's a nasty, dirty place sometimes.

Understand that when you choose to use alcohol/drugs that you are choosing to alter your normal mindset, particularly your inhibitions. Find your limits, and stay within them, don't depend on others to protect you from the bad things that may happen when you exceed your limits.

Keep a cell phone on you at all times, don't go off with folks you don't know. Don't try to walk/drive home from the bars at 2:00am drunk, call a cab. UGA has a comprehensive policy to get all students home safe, don't be afraid/ashamed to call the "safe ride" numbers.

Understanding that you alone are responsible for your safety, not the police, not your friends, is the first step to remaining safe.

To the OP:

Be aware that firearms are prohibited on most campuses, and breaking the law by carrying one puts the student in a bad legal position, regardless of your personal views. College students are no longer minors, for the most part, (over 18) and will be punished as adults for illegal actions without regard to their parent's views on carrying a firearm.
 
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OK, this has never entirely been on topic for General Handguns.

Problem is, we're on so many different subjects in this thread that it's off topic for all of the forums here.
 
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