Dan Wesson "scratch & dent" guns?

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imq707s

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I've been noticing several dealers on the net selling DW "scratch & dent" pistols at discounted prices. They are advertised as "new in box", and apparently come from directly from DW with the full warrenty.

Are these good deals? What kind of "scratches and dents" are they talking about?

I find it hard to belive that any decent manufacturer would sell second hand guns that wouldn't pass their own QC standards.

Can someone please give me some more info on these guns. Anyone bought on?

Thanks
 
I've seen ads from gun dealers for handguns that had been exhibited in shows.

I've never heard of a manufacturer that sells scratch & dent guns, though.
 
Best guess is that these were display guns that were handled and maybe knocked about in the display case. Some of these pick up scratches and dings which walk-in customers don't want to buy. I've seen some dealers knock 20% off a gun with a few minor cosmetic scratches just to get rid of them. The nice thing, if they're stainless, is that you can file down and polish out many of them with a little patience.
 
These guns have very slight finish imperfections. They are from the factory NOT discounted by the dealer.

I have seen few here and there at shows. To be honest you are hard pressed to find the imperfect.

There is nothing defective about the function of the gun. They are strictly finish issues.
 
I just bought a "blem" CBOB and I called Dan Wesson to check on the warranty. Scott at Dan Wesson told me the warrany on the "blem" guns was the exacty same 5-year limited warranty that was on all Dan Wesson guns.

Good to know.
 
Get on gunsamerica.com

Search for guns4sale. The guys name is Kenneth Hamerman. I think he said he doesn't get them in very often, but he may have a few left. From what he has told me, the majority of the "blem" guns he gets in look just like all the others. He said it's very rare to actually see any kind of blemish on one.

I guess I will see when mine shows up next week. :D
 
The dealer that I bought my .45 CBOB from just emailed me and said that he got a few 10mm's in and I think he's selling them for the same price $725. If you've been looking for one, shoot him an email. He's a great guy and it was great doing business with him.

His name is Kenny Hamerman ( email him at 45colt@bellsouth.net )

Tell him Ian sent you, he'll know who you are talking about.
 
Guns4Sale

Did you find this dealer to be a good one? How did you pay? He states he takes Money order/Bank Check or personal check and waits for it to clear.

Any problems?
 
I got mine from Kenneth Hammerman (see email from post above). He was great to deal with. I love my CBOB. No, haven't heard of any other dealers doing the S&D guns...but I haven't really been looking either.

I'm very happy with mine. :D
 
I know that Smith and Wesson sold "seconds" back in the 19th century, and they are marked as such, which actually makes them more collectable than a theoretically perfect one. But nowadays, why would you bother to assemble substandard parts into a whole gun and make it to sell for less money? Unless your inventory is zero and you got a big backlog of orders? Too bad car dealers do not give big discounts for minor 'blems". But DW guns are shooters, not show guns, so a tiny flaw would not make me cringe at a discount.
 
I got my blemished DW 10mm auto CBOB from Kenneth Hammerman. It was a great deal and he was a pleasure to deal with.

I have included a picture of the only blemish I could find.

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I've seen photos of a couple of "Blem Bobs" (bobtails with blemishes) and most manufacturers would have shipped them out at full price without disclosing any blemish.
 
Yep....the DW "Blem" guns are far from being a ""Blem" in my book. If someone can save $250+ on a great gun, why wouldn't you do it??

Here is my "blem" CBOB. I've taken it apart down to the frame....still haven't found a "blem" on it. :D

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IMQ707S

The obvious blemish on your DW is the checkering overrun on the top of the front strap.

Not that it would bother me, but THAT would be considered a blemish and is one of the more common ones on the "blemished" DW's for sale.

The other common one is small, point-of-a-pin sized pinholes in the stainless surface; doesn't take too many of those to reclassify the gun as "blemished."

I have yet to see a new, "blemished" DW that had anything worse.

However, the people I've met who sell "blemished" DW guns usually pricepoint them only about $100-125 less, so if appearance matters to you more than saving 10-12% of normal price, go with the regular new gun. If you aren't worried about checkering overruns or small pinholes, save the 10-12%.

Caveat: The two faults I've listed are the common DW blemishes, but you really need to ask the dealer what the issues are with the guy you might actually buy.
 
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"The obvious blemish on your DW is the checkering overrun on the top of the front strap."

WOW.....unless someone would have told me that, I would have never known that was considered a "blemish". I have never compared my gun to any other DW's (or 1911s)....I just assumed that's how DW did their checkering on the front strap.

If that's why they call mine a "blem" gun.......I can live with that. :D
 
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