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Daily Beast: Hillary Really Is Coming For Your Guns
- Thread starter Bartholomew Roberts
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Aguila Blanca
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Pro-gun groups in both New York and Connecticut have challenged their respective state's draconian new anti-gun laws. The two suits were consolidated (sort of), and arguments on both were heard in federal court on the same day. That was several months ago, and a decision should be announced fairly soon. In fact, it's overdue (although that's not a firm deadline, it's based on average times for decisions to see the light of day).Tom Servo said:Is there hope for the northeast? I can't say. If things are to change, it looks like it'll have to happen through the courts. The legislatures aren't in our favor.
Stay tuned ...
kilimanjaro
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Be prepared for the language of Heller to come back and bite us.
Reasonable regulations as a compelling public good, etc., etc.
Magazine limits, taxes, ASW bans, have all been upheld in one federal court or another, since they are well short of confiscation or complete bans.
Reasonable regulations as a compelling public good, etc., etc.
Magazine limits, taxes, ASW bans, have all been upheld in one federal court or another, since they are well short of confiscation or complete bans.
44 AMP said:I know people who would vote for Hillary, because she is a woman. I know people who voted for Obama, because he is black.
No other reason mattered to them.
Of course Hillary is going to demand more gun control, the leopard doesn't change its spots, and the wolf in sheep's clothing is still the wolf.
WE are in campaign mode here, people. Do not forget that. It's NOT about what is, or isn't right, or even what can, and cannot be done. It's about ALL of them spouting what ever crap they think will get them the biggest lead in a POPULARITY contest.
A contest where the only poll that matters is still over a year away. Enjoy the "pregame show", the game doesn't start for a while yet....
Truer words are rarely spoken.
I don't like HC's position on guns and gun control, but neither am I a single issue voter. Given the choice between her and Trump, I'd probably vote for her. I know where she stands, and it's probably not going to change between now, post primary and post election.
A pause for the COZ
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I have a much better solution....
Since 80% of ALL violent crime is committed by 10% of the criminals.
I suggest instead of allowing these scruff muffins to rotate through the system over and over and over. Making boat payments for Lawyers and keeping the Legal system,and law enforcement employed.
How about we keep them in prison??? At least past the trouble making years.
Not a whole lot of 45 year olds running with gangs.
Then lets actually treat people who have mental illness. Basically our county jails are our mental facilities.
Lets re open our mental hospitals. Help these people for Gods sake.
Since 80% of ALL violent crime is committed by 10% of the criminals.
I suggest instead of allowing these scruff muffins to rotate through the system over and over and over. Making boat payments for Lawyers and keeping the Legal system,and law enforcement employed.
How about we keep them in prison??? At least past the trouble making years.
Not a whole lot of 45 year olds running with gangs.
Then lets actually treat people who have mental illness. Basically our county jails are our mental facilities.
Lets re open our mental hospitals. Help these people for Gods sake.
Bart said:While I am sure this is not news to many of us who remember her husband's Administration, I thought it a worthwhile reminder for newer gun owners who may not be aware or even old timers who didn't realize that Hillary wants to go far beyond the 1990s gun control signed by Bill Clinton.
Indeed. Revisiting this sort of thing can develop a sort of institutional memory amongst younger voters.
The old DLC wing seemed to be more than window dressing, offering spots for the sorts of democrats were being pulled in opposite directions by their voters and the national parties.
If memory serves, Al Gore was once sufficiently supportive of 2d Am. rights to pass the scrutiny of his homestate voters, but he shifted along with his national ambitions. Other pols I've known have done this with issues beyond the scope of this board.
It is reasonable to predict that as Hilary heads into a general election she will blunt criticism by being publicly less antagonistic to the 2d Am. right. To know the degree to which such a move is insincere, it helps to know where she has been in the past.
That longer term assessment is valuable for some of the republican primary candidates as well.
I honestly don't think she feels the need to tone down the rhetoric. Her echo chamber has been telling her gun control is inevitable and unbeatable. Lately, they've gone from using the NRA as a strawman to attacking gun owners in general. That shows confidence. She's likely to follow (what she perceives as) that wave.It is reasonable to predict that as Hilary heads into a general election she will blunt criticism by being publicly less antagonistic to the 2d Am. right. To know the degree to which such a move is insincere, it helps to know where she has been in the past.
Let her. It'll scare off moderates, who are still the 800lb political gorilla in the room.
It's not a forum for pure politics. Discussions about Senator Whipple's mistress or Governor Thornhump's embarrassing Instagram pictures are off topic.I thought this wasn't a political forum.
Discussions about things that directly impact civil rights are the very point of this forum.