"D.C. Metro police officers are using new behavioral profiling"

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"Metro police officers are using new behavioral profiling"
By Wash. Post
MichNews.com
Jan 10, 2005


From the WASHINGTON POST:

"Metro police officers are using new behavioral profiling techniques as they patrol subway stations, identifying suspicious riders and pulling them aside for questioning.

"The officers are targeting people who avoid eye contact, loiter or appear to be looking around transit stations more than other passengers, officials said. Anyone identified as suspicious will be stopped and questioned about what they are doing and where they are going."

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I guess you're not allowed to be in condition yellow anymore, otherwise you're gonna get pulled aside and hassled by the police.

Disarmed and then roughed up for not acting like a slave.

Washington D.C. truly is an embarrassment to the nation.
 
In large urban areas, don't a lot of people avoid eye contact as a normal thing?
So if I don't look around enough, I am suspicious, but if I do it too much, I am suspicious.
 
"The officers are targeting people who avoid eye contact, loiter or appear to be looking around transit stations more than other passengers, officials said

So ... if you do not look into the eyes of all DC peace officers who may be within sight, you get attention. Because you "appeared to be avoiding eye contact".

If you stand around waiting for your subway train - instead of pretending to be going somewhere by walking in and out of the station (or perhaps wait somewhere else and rush in as the train arrives) - you "appeared to be loitering". And subject to questioning.

If you do not stand staring at the tracks like a zombie, you might be "looking around more than other passengers".

If you don't look around enough, you are perhaps avoiding eye contact. I can see a movie coming out of this; now if I only had the money and a studio. Hmmm, maybe Rowan Atkinson ....
 
While this application seems out of sorts with our rights, "behavioral profiling" is the basis for a lot of what the police do and even on occasion what citizens do.

Every time you become suspicious of somebody because of their behavior, you are essentially acting on a profile of what you think is inappropriate or not normal for a given situation or context. More often than not, suspicious behaviors are completely legal behaviors.

Don't be surprised. We all do it. Animals do it in nature.
 
Papers Please...........Where are you going? Where are you coming from? Do you have anything on you that may hurt me???



Police state, yes.
 
Double Naught got it right. "Profiling" is starting to become an offensive term just as "hate" did a while back. Yet everybody can tell what normal behaviour is, and profiling is just an extension of that.

A police officer who can't see when somebody is acting funny is less observent than he should be. A crook who doesn't "profile" his victims will soon get caught or stopped by picking the wrong victim. If we believe in being in condition yellow, we should expect our officers to do the same.
 
Double Naught got it right. "Profiling" is starting to become an offensive term just as "hate" did a while back. Yet everybody can tell what normal behaviour is, and profiling is just an extension of that.

A police officer who can't see when somebody is acting funny is less observent than he should be. A crook who doesn't "profile" his victims will soon get caught or stopped by picking the wrong victim. If we believe in being in condition yellow, we should expect our officers to do the same.

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If we believe in being in condition yellow, we should expect our officers to do the same.

When I am in condition Yellow, peoples rights dont get stepped on......Most LEO's are good, honest folks doing an insane job, but some are just JBT's with egos the size of a small galaxy.
 
From reading about it, it seems they may just be tightening security, and taking extra measures fir the upcomming presidential inauguration....

maybe they will relax afterwards....
 
Most LEO's are good, honest folks doing an insane job, but some are just JBT's with egos the size of a small galaxy.

A good point to keep in mind. Important not to alienate the majority by labeling them as the minority.
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wildcard said:
Papers Please...........Where are you going? Where are you coming from? Do you have anything on you that may hurt me???

Q: Where are you going?
A: To an appointment

Q: Where are you coming from?
A: South (pointing) That-a-way.

Q: Do you have anything on you that may hurt me?
A: Do you mean my ball point pen? Car keys? Pocket knife? Cigarette smoke?

Your question: "Have I done something I shouldn't have?"

Solution for the snoopies - look exasperated, check your watch, pace, take out your pager or cell phone and look at it for a few moments, put it back. Finally give a look of resignation and then relax. BGs don't draw attention to themselves with dramatic gestures and body language.
 
If i just look suspicious, They can detain me, in DC. I find that offensive, harrassing and just wrong. These kind of things become commonplace, powers expand, and pretty soon, we are all screwed. Do not give up liberty for security, a wise man said that once. I think he spoke from experience.
 
what are you doing? im listening to the voices in my head

where are you going? where the voices tell me to go

do you mind if i frisk you? how much will it costs







ahhhh the wonderful world of occupied DC


our countries capital.... and soon we could get a curfew and free-speech zones where everywhere else is limited free speech


Man i hate the bill of rights anyways, lets just throw it out and invite communism in





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It is not that profiling is bad; it is not limited to peace officers, everyone does it to a greater of lesser degree.

The problem with this particular piece, at least as it is described under the hypothetical circumstances, is that it is so broad as to make it a sort of catch all that could be applied to most everyone who is in a subway station.
 
I agree with all y'all. The Washington Post is a fine source of news and police officers should not pay any attention to what's going on around them. Makes sense to me. :o

John
 
BGs don't draw attention to themselves with dramatic gestures and body language.

I disagree.

I agree with all y'all. The Washington Post is a fine source of news and police officers should not pay any attention to what's going on around them. Makes sense to me.

Nobody said that. It is the language they use which is offensive. Basically by their language anything and everything you could do is suspicious. This is the type of language they always use now to condition us to the idea of it all.

Would you enjoy living in a police state under constant martial law? Many people as well as I would argue we are already at that point in some parts of the country such as D.C.

I'm surprised their hasn't been any "Washington Compost" remarks yet.
 
Some people run around yelling: "The sky is falling the sky is falling" at every turn. Anyone who trys to tell them otherwise is either "ignorant" or "part of the problem". There's always 2 ends to every spectrum.

TBO
 
I agree that profiling is useful and common, I just disagree with the wording of the article. Profiliing only works with intelligent (use of experience and mind) application.
 
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