CZ75 trigger reach

Ask (here on the forum) if there are any CZ owners near where you live -- maybe you can hook up for a dry-fire or live-fire session!
 
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A Gen 3 Glock is at my outside limits and a CZ 75 is well beyond them. I was REALLY interested in getting one, but one round at the range made it apparent it wasn't the gun for me.
 
Walt, I would love to have such a pleasure if someone would be so welcoming.

In my area most people that I have met are not so generous. I don't know many gun owners around where I live.

Maybe I shoul
 
All CZs, equipped with the standard trigger system, whether decocker- or safety-equipped, can be started from the half-cock notch.
Starting from the half-cock notch doesn't actually change the initial position of the DA trigger. What changes is the point at which the takeup stage of the trigger pull stops and the hammer starts moving.

In other words, the DA trigger will be at exactly the same starting position whether the hammer is fully down or at half-cock but there will be more "slack/takeup" in the trigger if the hammer is at half-cock.

If your finger is just a hair too short to achieve good positioning, the difference in slack might allow you to sort of "squeeze" your finger into position on the trigger by exploiting the very light pull of the additional slack that will be provided. Unfortunately it won't let someone reach the trigger if they can't already get their finger at least partially onto it already.
 
One of my favorite features of czs and their clones is the long trigger reach. I know for those with smaller hands it can be a pain but there are so many small framed guns out there that its nice to find one that actually fits me.
Some of the best feeling guns for me are the cz97 and the large frame witness elites.
 
JohnKSa said:
Starting from the half-cock notch doesn't actually change the initial position of the DA trigger. What changes is the point at which the takeup stage of the trigger pull stops and the hammer starts moving.

The only 75B-based CZ I have at the moment is an 85 Combat, but as I understand it, the internal mechanism is the same as safety-equipped 75B, except for the firing pin block and linkage, and the hammer (which has the notch in question) is the same. I have shot, but never owned a decocker-equipped CZ.

When starting the trigger pull with my 85C from full hammer down, the trigger's rearward movement (take-up) is about 3/16th of an inch before you begin to engage the mechanism.

When you start from that gun's half-cock position, the trigger seems to start from about 3/16th of an inch farther back and there is much more easy movement allowed back before you start to engage the mechanism. That means you have more free-play AS you're positioning your finger. For some folks with safety-equipped CZs that may be more than enough.

Those reading here who have safety-equipped CZs should comment if their 75B is different than my 85 Combat. If not, it may be that the starting trigger position is different with decocker-equipped models. If you based your comments upon handling a decocker-equipped CZ, that may explain why your comments differ from mine. (When examining my Sphinx SDP, which is similar to the CZ Decocker models (but not the same) the trigger seems to start from similar positions, but take up is quite different; when in the decocked position, takeup is greter and much lighter than when starting from hammer down.)

I also have a custom AT84s, which is a CZ-pattern gun based on the Tanfoglio design (but made in Switzerland). That gun, which is DA/SA and safety equipped has markedly different trigger starting positions when starting from hammer down or the half-cock notch. I don't know whether that is a Tanfoglio-based difference, or something the gunsmith did when doing his magic (before I bought the gun, used.) That is a marvelous semi-auto.
 
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Those reading here who have safety-equipped CZs should comment if their 75B is different than my 85 Combat.
I have two CZ-75B (non-decocker models) on hand.

On one, moving the hammer from the fully down position to the half-cock position doesn't move the trigger at all. I performed the operation a number of times and there is no detectable trigger movement during the operation.

On the other, moving the hammer from the fully down position to the half-cock position results in a very small amount of rearward movement during the very last part of the operation as the hammer moves backwards past the half-cock position. HOWEVER the trigger returns to its fully forward position when the hammer is released to rest against the half-cock notch.

In both guns, starting from the half-cock notch does increase the length of takeup/slack portion of the pull before encountering any significant resistance.
 
+1 on the CGW reach reduction trigger kit. It uses the 85 combat trigger. I put one in my CZ75B, and it not only reduced the reach, but also the reset distance, and after travel.

An added benefit for me is that the CGW kit took the "trigger sting" out. A few CZ owners have noted trigger sting, which is reduced with the flatter 85 trigger.
 
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