wild cat mccane said:
Heck, even the P226 is coming with the SRT trigger for very little more than the stock version. It certainly doesn't cost 400 plus more like a Custom Shop SP-01.
I didn't know we were talking about CUSTOM SHOP SP-01s. A stock CZ SP-01 can be bought, NIB, for about $600 on Gun Broker. Custom enhancements can double or triple the price tag pretty quickly.
You named a bunch of different guns, each with
one or two of the key traits, but none with all of them. How do you get the others traits in those guns?
Custom Shop guns are custom guns. You pay for that, no matter who does the work.
I don't think H&K offers a gun that matches the features you describe, nor does SIGARMS. Beretta doesn't, either -- although you
can pay Wilson Combat to upgrade your factory correct Model 92 if you want something more refined. Some of SIGs X-five and Elite SIGs guns might come close to having all those features, but they are very costly, particularly if you want SAO. Then too, MANY SIG owners add after-market parts or optional parts from SIGARMS to their guns.
APEX makes all sort of upgrades for all sorts of guns. A wide variety of after-market vendors support Glocks, because Glocks don't come from Glock just they way some folks want them...
I've had a bunch of SIGs over the years (a 1911, P220s, P226s, P239s, and even a SAO P226 X-Five Competition and a P220 Match and P220 Super Match.) But a Grey Guns P-228 is the only SIG I own now. While many rave about the SIGs, they just haven't,
for me, lived up to all the hype most SIG lovers talk about. My P228 is great, maybe the best SIG I've ever owned,
but it's not close to stock and not a lot better than my Sphinx SDP, which is stock except for a $4 hammer spring change.
Were I to try to recreate that P228 with a new M11A1 and have Grey Guns do the same magic on it that they did on the P228 -- their Short Reset Comprehensive Carry Package and Heinie Straight 8 Night sights, I'd have to spend at least $1600 for the gun and the GG enhancements. (I bought mine used with a very low round count for $750. I was lucky.
I can buy a Sphinx SDP NEW for about $850 and all it needs to compete head on with that greatly enhanced semi-custom SIG P228 is night sights. That SDP and some of the Tanfoglio-made Witness CZ-pattern guns are about the only guns I can think of that come close to the CZs with the traits you describe, and with the Witness guns you'd still have to worry about EAA customer service and a somewhat higher price (but not as bad as a Custom Shop price.)
wild cat mccane said:
Better Ergos - since reach is a real issue in DA for the SP-01, any polymer hammer fired with a changeable backstrap: PX4, P30, P99, P-09, P-07, 2022, VP9, TP9.
Or you get a DA/SA version of a SP-01 and 1) start from cocked and locked, 2) install the short-reset trigger upgrade form the CS or CGW, or 3) install much slimmer grips (aluminum). Most of the guns you cited were MUCH different guns and none really set up for competition; the SP-01 was apparently designed for IDPA and USPSA, and that's where you'll see SP-01s most often. You might see a few P-07s or P-09s there, but not many of the others. I can't remember when I last saw a P99 or Px4 or P30 or 2022 in the gun games. As the TP9 get more widely known, you might see it there... It's apparently a very good gun. (If you like polymer, striker-fired weapons.)
