CZ 75 or Beretta 92FS?
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Two things disqualified the CZ - the lack of a decocker (which would been rectified - eventually in the form of CZ-75BD - had the US been seriously interested in CZ) and, more importantly, the fact that Czechoslovakia was still behind the Iron Curtain at the time.
Skorzeny
According to Gene Gangarossa, in his book about the Beretta company, there is a mention of the testers acquiring some sample CZ-75s that were imported (probably through Canada) that "equaled or exceeded" all other test guns (including the SIG and the Beretta).
Two things disqualified the CZ - the lack of a decocker (which would been rectified - eventually in the form of CZ-75BD - had the US been seriously interested in CZ) and, more importantly, the fact that Czechoslovakia was still behind the Iron Curtain at the time.
Skorzeny
RAY WOODROW 3RD
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Beretta of course. 
Have both, compared to the CZ the Beretta has a lousy SA and DA trigger pull. The CZ also fits my hand better. The workmanship on the Beretta (USA made) is superior. As to which is more reliable and which will last longer, suspect that no one has that answer.
For what it's worth: my local police dept. recently switched to 40 cal Sigs from 9 mm Beretta 92s(shot +P+ in the Berettas). The reason was that the Berettas were giving them trouble and the manufacturer was not responsive to their complaints.
For what it's worth: my local police dept. recently switched to 40 cal Sigs from 9 mm Beretta 92s(shot +P+ in the Berettas). The reason was that the Berettas were giving them trouble and the manufacturer was not responsive to their complaints.
CastleBravo
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For most people it is the other way around... the 92 grip is blockier and has a longer trigger reach than the CZ. 
Denfoote and I must have weird hands.
I just bought a CZ 75 B a couple days ago. I was also seriously considering a Beretta 92F. I liked the looks of the Beretta more and the Beretta's grip was more comfortable, but the prices of Berettas in my area all seemed too high, so I bought the CZ. I wanted to get both anyway, and when I find a good price I will get the Beretta.
I don't have huge hands, but there's something about the way my fingers rest on the front strap of the CZ that is slightly uncomfortable. The Beretta's grip is a much better fit for me.
Both are great guns and I don't regret getting the CZ at all, but I am looking forward to getting a Beretta 92 soon.
I just bought a CZ 75 B a couple days ago. I was also seriously considering a Beretta 92F. I liked the looks of the Beretta more and the Beretta's grip was more comfortable, but the prices of Berettas in my area all seemed too high, so I bought the CZ. I wanted to get both anyway, and when I find a good price I will get the Beretta.
I don't have huge hands, but there's something about the way my fingers rest on the front strap of the CZ that is slightly uncomfortable. The Beretta's grip is a much better fit for me.
Both are great guns and I don't regret getting the CZ at all, but I am looking forward to getting a Beretta 92 soon.
Rickmeister
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Both guns are terrific.
Berettas have a longer track record. (+)
CZs are more affordable. (+)
Most Berettas use a drop-lug locking mechanism. (+)
Most CZs use a tilt-barrel locking mechanism. (- ) Yes, minus. Tilts are simple, reliable, and immensely popular; but for whatever reason tend to impinge ever so slightly on accuracy. Unfortunately---and until someone comes up with a better design (I'm working on it)---tilts are in it for the long haul.
Berettas are bulky. Even the compact ones like the Cheetah. (-)
CZs have better lines. (+)
Berettas have fewer FTEs due to the huge opening in the slide, which doubles as an oversized ejection port. (+)
Net score: Beretta 2, CZ 1
Beretta wins.
Berettas have a longer track record. (+)
CZs are more affordable. (+)
Most Berettas use a drop-lug locking mechanism. (+)
Most CZs use a tilt-barrel locking mechanism. (- ) Yes, minus. Tilts are simple, reliable, and immensely popular; but for whatever reason tend to impinge ever so slightly on accuracy. Unfortunately---and until someone comes up with a better design (I'm working on it)
---tilts are in it for the long haul.Berettas are bulky. Even the compact ones like the Cheetah. (-)
CZs have better lines. (+)
Berettas have fewer FTEs due to the huge opening in the slide, which doubles as an oversized ejection port. (+)
Net score: Beretta 2, CZ 1
Beretta wins.
They are both fine pistols (as far as 9mm double stacks go 
) Neither is a bad choice. I prefer the way the CZ feels in my hands to the way the Beretta does, but it's not a big difference.
Earlier on this thread it was posted that the CZ was much heavier, but I did not find that to be the case, but I did not personally weigh each of them. On their respective websites, the unloaded CZ 75B is reported to weigh 35.2 oz (1000 grams) and the unloaded 92FS is reported to weigh 34.4 oz. 0.8 of a oz is not enough to matter in my opinion.
-Hal
) Neither is a bad choice. I prefer the way the CZ feels in my hands to the way the Beretta does, but it's not a big difference. Earlier on this thread it was posted that the CZ was much heavier, but I did not find that to be the case, but I did not personally weigh each of them. On their respective websites, the unloaded CZ 75B is reported to weigh 35.2 oz (1000 grams) and the unloaded 92FS is reported to weigh 34.4 oz. 0.8 of a oz is not enough to matter in my opinion.
-Hal
Another Vote for the CZ...
Boy, I've got to chime in here...my duty gun (military) is the Beretta, my long-time personal choice has been my Sig P226; I've recently found a "very" inexpensive CZ85...and have been very impressed!
The Beretta is a good shooter and service gun...it's biggest advantage over my CZ85 is the weight. Ergonomics definately goes to the CZ (even feels better than my P226
). The trigger on the CZ85 (can't speak for the 75) is MUCH better than my duty Beretta...plus the "locked-and-cocked" feature is real sweet! To be honest, I haven't had any FTFs or FTEs in my Beretta, Sig or the CZ. Of the three, the CZ feels the most solid, and it is comparable in accuracy with my SIG...in fact, I've found I often shoot better with the CZ out of all three. I really can't knock the Beretta, except for its size, but if I had to choose one 9mm, and SIG wasn't an option , I'd go with the CZ!
PLf
Boy, I've got to chime in here...my duty gun (military) is the Beretta, my long-time personal choice has been my Sig P226; I've recently found a "very" inexpensive CZ85...and have been very impressed!
The Beretta is a good shooter and service gun...it's biggest advantage over my CZ85 is the weight. Ergonomics definately goes to the CZ (even feels better than my P226
). The trigger on the CZ85 (can't speak for the 75) is MUCH better than my duty Beretta...plus the "locked-and-cocked" feature is real sweet! To be honest, I haven't had any FTFs or FTEs in my Beretta, Sig or the CZ. Of the three, the CZ feels the most solid, and it is comparable in accuracy with my SIG...in fact, I've found I often shoot better with the CZ out of all three. I really can't knock the Beretta, except for its size, but if I had to choose one 9mm, and SIG wasn't an option , I'd go with the CZ!PLf