CZ 75 B vs SP-01

CZ 75 B vs CZ SP-01

  • CZ 75 B

    Votes: 23 52.3%

  • CZ SP-01

    Votes: 21 47.7%
  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .
rt11002003 said:
...The Tactical Sport would be more appealing for me with adjustable rear sights, probably not the ultimate for competition shooting; and in a single color. However, the Tactical Sport is more attractive overall; I'm not a fan of rails. Can live with them, but they spoil the lines of some guns.
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Actually, the Tactical Sport IS one of the ultimate guns for competiton: it was designed from the ground up for IPSC/USPSA. Only the Czechmate -- which, I think, uses the same frame, outdoes it. The IPSC/USPSA folks don't need rails: they mount their optics on the frame!!

The Tactical Sport is a fine weapon and quite different from the Shadow line. It's built on a larger frame -- so be sure it fits your hand! It doesn't have the same frame as the 75 Shadow line; it has a larger frame similar in size to the CZ-97. It's also, like many of the other "competition" CZs, very pricey: $1300+/-
 
I have a 75 Compact and I voted for the 75 B. I don't have an urge to hang hardware off my pistols, so I don't need the rail. And, I don't participate in combat games, so the extra weight and improved shootability of the 75 SP-01 are offset by the classic, slimmer lines of the 75 B for me, as I would likely carry it once in a while.

My ideal 75 B would probably be a matte stainless, perhaps converted to SAO.
 
I voted SP-01 and here's my reasons. FLDC/rail for HD duty plus the extra weight out front really helps with muzzle flip and quicker follow up shots. Plus, 18+1 from the factory is sweet.

I own a SP-01 and a transitional Pre-B converted to SAO. The muzzle flip between the two is very noticeable as is the extra long beaver tail of the SP-01. I bought my SP-01 to use as a range and then competition gun. This is now my second season of using it for IDPA. If someone wanted to compete with a CZ I would figure out what flavor you have around you (IDPA,IPSC, USPSA, etc), and then figure out what gun can fit into the sometimes ridiculous rules.
 
Don't own any CZs but I have shot my Son's CZ SP01 quite a bit and it is a great pistol. I liked shooting it better than the CZ 75B I tried.

If I bought a CZ it would be the CZ SP01 as it is heavier, comes with rubber grips, night sights, and IMO a better beaver tail. A CZ 75B would be too big and heavy for my to CCW anyhow so might as well go for the one with potential to a be a better range gun. Most likely I would go with the CZ SP01 Shadow.

As always it is best to try both out, if possible, and goes with what you shoot the best.
 
The only difference between the 18-round SP-01 mags and the 16-round 75 mags are the baseplate. You can spend $5 to put an SP-01 base plate on a 75 mag, and now you've got an 18-rounder. Personally, I prefer the 16-rounder with a rubber base pad, but I do keep a spare 18-round mag in the nightstand, just in case of super duper emergencies where I might need 34 rounds.
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Not true. If you put a sp-01 base plate on a 16 round mag the mag will no longer fit a standard 75b but will be a perfect fit in a compact cz like a pcr or p-01. It will still only hold 16 rounds. The 18 round mags have longer tubes. Here's a 16 rounder with the sp-01 base plate in my cz compact.

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I went to the LGS today and handled an SP-01. Unfortunately they didn't have a 75 B to compare it to, but the SP-01 felt really good.

I'm also considering an HK45, but the price is hard to justify. It also felt good, but is a noticeably larger pistol. I expected to not like the HK mag release, but I actually adjusted to it immediately. By the time I left the store I preferred it over the standard mag release because it allows me to reload without changing my grip as much.
 
Either the B or the SP-01 is a good choice that you likely won't regret. And, both are relatively affordable. Which to choose depends on how you plan to use it.
 
railroader said:
Not true. If you put a sp-01 base plate on a 16 round mag the mag will no longer fit a standard 75b but will be a perfect fit in a compact cz like a pcr or p-01. It will still only hold 16 rounds. The 18 round mags have longer tubes. Here's a 16 rounder with the sp-01 base plate in my cz compact.
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While the base plates are different, I think the FOLLOWER is different, too -- allowing a skosh more room, there, too.
 
Walt Sherill, my comment was intended to convey my preference for adjustable sights. However, I doubt they would be what competitors wanted, especially if working from a holster.

My poor eyes don't really care for iron sights anymore. But, I seem to find guns with adjustable rear sights have sight pictures favorable to my eyes. I do OK with the plain black sights on my H&K's, my SIG's, my STI and my Springfield RO 1911 9mm. Most other iron sights don't work that well for me.

I decided to bite the bullet and ordered a CZ 75 Tactical Sport today. I gathered from your comments competitors have a way for frame mounting optics. Not knowing anything about formal competition, I don't know how that is done. Can you PM me about it.

I shoot a H&K Mark 23 and a SIG X-6, both big guns. Hopefully the Tactical Sport will fit me.
 
rt11002003 said:
I decided to bite the bullet and ordered a CZ 75 Tactical Sport today. I gathered from your comments competitors have a way for frame mounting optics. Not knowing anything about formal competition, I don't know how that is done. Can you PM me about it.
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No need for a PM. I'm sure you will be able to find an adjustable sight that will fit the Tactical Sport. The earlier versions of the gun came with an adjustable rear sight as standard.

I'm pretty sure that the CZ Custom Shop or the CZ-USA site will be able to get what you want or give you info about a frame mounted optic that will work well. Here's an example of that TYPE of sight mount as used on the CZ Czechmate.

Note: I have not seen a recent-production Czechmate up close, but am told they are built on the same frame as the Tactical Sport. I have handled a much older Champion, which was similar, but based on the smaller 75 frame.

You should be able to find appropriate sights, either way. (I have the same sort of problem eyes -- although I've found that proper glasses, set to focus on the front sight, are more important than the sights themselves.)

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Thanks for the info. I hadn't paid a lot of attention to CZ guns. My shooting buddy recommended the CZ75Tactical Sport for target shooting, like I don't have enough 9mm guns for targets. More than one should be enough. :) When I saw the 75SP-01 Shadow Target on the CZ website, I was smitten. Had I looked further, I'd have found a lot of info on the CZ guns. I decided the CZ75Tactical Sport would suit my purposes.

It's really strange about my eyesight. I only need glasses to read with. When sailing/racing I'm usually the first person on the boat to see the distant marks. But, when shooting at 15 yards, it starts to be hard to see the target; the front sight and the target start to become one object. And, not a clear object at that. Red dots are blobs to me.

I've found most of the guns setup with adjustable sights have nice plain black sights, which I handle best until reaching the 15 yard point.

Telescopes work best for me. I have them on all my 22 target handguns and 22 target rifles. Also have one on a LWRC IC M6 SPR.

I need to talk to my Dr. about this.
 
RE: seeing your eye Doctor...

Several years ago I was shooting a lot -- IDPA and time at the range.

Then I developed a cataract in one eye (my weak eye.) IT slowly got worse, of course.

An Opthamalogist who worked with athletes suggested two different single focus lenses: one for my weak (left) eye that let me see the distant target clearly, and one for right eye that let me focus on the front sight. It worked beautifully.

The cataract matured and was replaced by a multi-focal implanted lens. It works pretty well and I don't need glasses in that eye except to read. The left lens of my shooting glasses is a clear, non-prescription lens. My other eye has a cataract now, and I have a bifocal lens on that eye that lets me see for reading and for the front sight (the top portion of the lens). When I look with both eyes I can close one or the other. The left eye helps me find the target and the right eye lets me focus on the front sight -- and I can see a bullseye as a kind of blur (but the shape is obvious.)

I'm shooting better, now, and enjoying it again. In a year or so I'll have the right eye cataract removed and a bi-focal lense implanted there, too. Your eye doctor may have a better solution for you... talk with him.
 
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