CZ 1911a1 Made in the USA
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Just another species of fish in the pond. I paid 800 plus tax for my parkerized Springfield loaded 1911. It also has a forged frame and slide but has tritium night sights, skeletonized hammer and trigger, beavertail grip safety with memory bump, front slide serrations, etc. Plus I have put 900+/- rounds through it and not ONE SINGLE MALFUNCTION. That includes steel and aluminum cased bargain ammo and a few hollowpoints
For many people who want a particular look or particular feel to the gun those things are not + they are -. There is a lot of personal preference that comes into choosing a 1911.
There is something about the older look and feel of a 1911MA1 gun not necessarily better just different.
If these are forged frame and slide with tooled steel parts they will be a different breed of modern GI 1911s which will appeal to many people. Not all people but some. You don't have to appeal to everyone only enough to make the gun profitable. The jury is still out on exactly what these will be but I am looking forward to seeing one in person.
zombieslayer
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I definitely can't wait to check out one of these.
Over at my favorite 1911 forum, one of the posters said he called CZ and they would neither confirm nor deny that Dan Wesson was building the pistol. The pistol will likely have some MIM but there was no mention how much. It's supposed to debut at the Shot Show and be available at the end of the first quarter of next year.
I like 1911s with beavertails but do own a couple without and am picking up another this week. They are different and that hammer will make a man out of you if you like a high grip.
I like 1911s with beavertails but do own a couple without and am picking up another this week. They are different and that hammer will make a man out of you if you like a high grip.
Nakanokalronin
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If the internals are bar stock and/or forged steel like the DW high end models then I'll be one of the first to buy one since there's not really any "GI" (loosely used term) configured 1911 that would compete at that point. I'd change out the MSH for a flat one, but I'm fine with that.
I spoke to my friend, the CZ/DW dealer, he said they don't have a lot of specifics on them but he has ordered 4 and expects to be selling them for about $750, maybe a little less. I told him that we were all curious about any DW connection, MIM parts, etc, and he said he'll call CZ and ask them and let me know.
Agree with this! I have recently picked up a 75B and need to get it to Cajun Gun works to get a trigger reduction kit done on it.
The CZ97 is huge and only fits some people properly. You can do the same thing to a 97 but the grip is still huge so it does not shorten the pull as much.
Walt Sherrill
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WVsig said:
That's why I traded away my CZ-97B some years ago --the after-market "fixes" (which also includes slimmer grips) weren't available then. At that time I also had an ASAI One-Pro .45 (imported by Magnum Research) and a Witness Sport Long Slide .45. They all used the same Mec-Gar magazine. The CZ was clearly bigger than it had to be through the grip, as the other two .45s were based on the same basic CZ-pattern. Even with the later "fixes" installed, it's a BIG GUN!!.
Walt I held one the other day in a shop. The grip is big enough to be a double stack. LOL The crazy thing about them is that the trigger is wider than even the 75B adding insult to injury.
I agree that even with current "fixes" unless you have large hands it is still a hard fit.
I agree that even with current "fixes" unless you have large hands it is still a hard fit.
Walt Sherrill
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WVsig said:
Believe it or not, it IS a double-stack mag -- just not double-stack enough to get more than 10 rounds into the grip. The mags on mine tapered at the top just like the 9mm and .40 versions used in their other guns; they were just a bit bigger. I don't think CZ has done many [any?] single-stack mags since the cz-52... The following is from the CZ-USA website product description for the decocker version of the 97B:
A decocker version of the basic CZ 97 B model, we added tritium night sights to make it usable in low-light situations. The decocking lever is mounted on the left side, allowing the hammer to be lowered on a loaded chamber and enable safe, ‘hammer-down’ carry. The double-stack magazine allows for 10+1 capacity.
armoredman
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One-Pro? great trigger, but when I worked at a gun shop way back in the day we had many returned for trigger related parts breakage. Hope they fixed that.
Yep, just like the really obvious tool marks all over my CZ P-09...
Oh, wait, there aren't any...how silly of me...
Yep, just like the really obvious tool marks all over my CZ P-09...
Oh, wait, there aren't any...how silly of me...
Walt Sherrill
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RE: ASAI One Pro:
The one I bought, about 10-years ago, I picked up for $400, and later sold it for just a bit more. I saw one advertized last year for $800 and was sorely tempted.
The one I bought -- and it was totally factory fresh (no mods) -- was the smoothest, lightest trigger I've every experienced in any gun, not just in a factory DA/SDA gun. It was difficult for me NOT to double-tap if starting from hammer down, and that's why I eventually sold it -- it seemed more in control than I was.
In hindsight, now, I realize I should just have installed a slightly heavier hammer spring, and the CZ hammer springs likely would have worked. The heavier hammer would probably solved the too-light SA trigger. (I think I'm better equipped to deal with the trigger now, and then there's the heavier springs.)
Duh.
The one I bought, about 10-years ago, I picked up for $400, and later sold it for just a bit more. I saw one advertized last year for $800 and was sorely tempted.
The one I bought -- and it was totally factory fresh (no mods) -- was the smoothest, lightest trigger I've every experienced in any gun, not just in a factory DA/SDA gun. It was difficult for me NOT to double-tap if starting from hammer down, and that's why I eventually sold it -- it seemed more in control than I was.
In hindsight, now, I realize I should just have installed a slightly heavier hammer spring, and the CZ hammer springs likely would have worked. The heavier hammer would probably solved the too-light SA trigger. (I think I'm better equipped to deal with the trigger now, and then there's the heavier springs.)
Duh.
Tooling marks on the inside of the 75 series variants have been very common, a Google search will let you know. Maybe the P-09 is on a new line that receives better attention or maybe CZ is improving product-wide, but I've owned multiple fullsize 75Bs as well as P-01s within the last 4 years and all of them had tool marks inside. One example doesn't erase all that.