CZ 1911A1 has hit the market...

Looks like my kind of 1911, simple and functional. Now, if it only works like a Colt/GI gun, I might be interested, if I wanted another 1911.

Ive been burned by to many of the prettier, and costlier clones, to feel good about looks.
 
I'll be interested in seeing a review from someone who knows something about 1911s. I saw a link to a Youtube review but, in all honesty, the reviewer is not an experienced 1911 owner.
 
If it's like everything else CZ makes it will be very good. They produce Dan Wessons, so certainly know a lot about 1911s.
 
^^^that's what came to mind. Since CZ owns DW and DW is putting out some nice 1911's, perhaps this is CZ's way of having a lower priced 1911 and not diluting the profits from DW.^^^
 
I do not understand why they named it the CZ 1911A1 since it is a far cry in looks from the U.S. Military M1911A1. It looks more akin to the U.S. Military M1911.

Therefore they should of named it the CZ 1911.

Study it closely, doesn't It look more like the M1911 vs. the M1911A1. ???
 
It is my understanding that these are made in the USA and that CZ does not have a production facility inside the USA except for the Dan Wesson facility. Yes CZ owns Dan Wesson so technically all Dan Wessons are made by CZ but I think what people are referring to is the fact that these are being produced at the Dan Wesson facility by people who know how to make a quality 1911.

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-1911-a1/
 
I spoke with a CZ representative a few weeks ago who told me differently.

So where is the CZ production facility in the USA?

Keith from over on the 1911forum posted this...

You can't make a 1911- here in the states- for anywhere close to $500.00. Not one of this quality anyway. There is no MIM or plastic in this particular model and GI parts are like Hens Teeth. Quality ones anyway. Unless you are making 10,000 of them or more and can afford to pay for MIM tooling and such but CZ only plans to make 1,000 of these this year.

CZ marked the slide like they do all of their pistols. BTW they sell a heck of a lot more CZ pistols than DW's... I can't blame them for branding them this way. Besides, All the other GI guns out there either have HUGE engravings on the slide or plaster the whole left side with roll marks. The CZ's are a balance between the two.

Obviously, I am not a big fan of lots of engraving or roll marks but the gun itself is a heck of a gun and that is the most important factor to me.
 
^^Sounds like an uninformed CZ rep.

CZ-USA bought DW 10 years ago. My impression is that CZ-USA hasn't tampered with DW's manufacturing. I assume their biggest impact has been on bringing them under the umbrella of CZ-USA's customer service umbrella. It would make little sense for CZUB to start cranking out 1911s; they are already at capacity and easily sell everything they produce. My hope was that CZ would use DW as a foothold to start producing CZ firearms in the US. I recall talk about DW facilities being used to produce the CZ Skorpion EVO; I don't know where that went. The only way to sell the CZ 92 in the US would be to build it here.

CZ is advertizing the CZ 1911 A1 as US-made, and the only facility they have to make it here is DW's. It would make sense to expand the DW share of the 1911 market by selling a model at a much lower, but not cheap, price point, and branding it as a CZ does little to dilute the DW brand. It seems to me that expanding the DW operation to increase CZ's overall capacity makes sense, too. After all, the US is the world's single largest civilian firearms market. They could undoubtedly sell everything they shipped from CZUB, but CZUB is selling everything they make already, and they have a loyal customer base around the world. I recall reading, for example, that CZ has about 50% (or more?) of the sales of rifles to African safari hunters.

Thus, the best way for CZ to expand its market share in the US without walking away from good markets elsewhere would seem to be to start making CZ firearms here. I hope the CZ 1911 A1 is a sign of good things to come. If CZ-USA were wise, though, they'd move DW to a gun-friendly state before any vigorous expansion.
 
^^Sounds like an uninformed CZ rep.

CZ-USA bought DW 10 years ago. My impression is that CZ-USA hasn't tampered with DW's manufacturing. I assume their biggest impact has been on bringing them under the umbrella of CZ-USA's customer service umbrella. It would make little sense for CZUB to start cranking out 1911s; they are already at capacity and easily sell everything they produce. My hope was that CZ would use DW as a foothold to start producing CZ firearms in the US. I recall talk about DW facilities being used to produce the CZ Skorpion EVO; I don't know where that went. The only way to sell the CZ 92 in the US would be to build it here.

CZ is advertizing the CZ 1911 A1 as US-made, and the only facility they have to make it here is DW's. It would make sense to expand the DW share of the 1911 market by selling a model at a much lower, but not cheap, price point, and branding it as a CZ does little to dilute the DW brand. It seems to me that expanding the DW operation to increase CZ's overall capacity makes sense, too. After all, the US is the world's single largest civilian firearms market. They could undoubtedly sell everything they shipped from CZUB, but CZUB is selling everything they make already, and they have a loyal customer base around the world. I recall reading, for example, that CZ has about 50% (or more?) of the sales of rifles to African safari hunters.

Thus, the best way for CZ to expand its market share in the US without walking away from good markets elsewhere would seem to be to start making CZ firearms here. I hope the CZ 1911 A1 is a sign of good things to come. If CZ-USA were wise, though, they'd move DW to a gun-friendly state before any vigorous expansion.

This is how I understand it as well.

Keith Lawton is a customer service rep at Dan Wesson who has been posting over on the 1911 forum for about 10 years. He is extremely well informed. He is one of the best sources of information about Dan Wesson pistols to the general public. He has a decade long history of helping 1911forum users interface with the Dan Wesson mother ship since CZ bought them from Bob Serva.

He has confirmed that new CZ 1911A1 will be made at the Dan Wesson facility because it is the only CZ facility in the USA. It is going to be built by Dan Wesson but to the CZ specs. This is not a point of dispute or speculation it is what it is. I would take Keiths word as the truth because of his track record.

twhidd I have stated where my info comes from I wonder if you will be as forth coming with your source?
 
The CZ rep I spoke with may very we'll be wrong. This is just an observation, but I took these photos today and nowhere on the gun does it say it was made in New York. It simply says made in the USA CZ USA Kansas City.


 
CZ USA is headquartered in KC. That is where their FFL/Import Lic is held so it is stamped on the pistol. IIRC the roll mark does not denote where the pistol was made.
 
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