Layton I never pay a transfer for my own firearm . My FFL ships it for me the Gunsmith I sent it to sends it back to my home . Yes more then likely I pay the return shipping but never a transfer . If I buy a new or used firearm I pay a transfer 10 bucks big deal . If I buy from Buds Guns shipping is free .
Custom super redhawk
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I have a small gun shop about two miles from my home . The lady that runs it is a friend of my wife and she does take good care of me . We have a bunch of FFL holders that do not sell any firearms at all but do transfers only . The fees run from cheap to just silly some are only open evenings and would like to just talk all older retired people . They put a yard barn out back and call it a gun shop . Years ago I bought and sold Trap Guns and did pay some big bucks to ship them over night . And yes it would cost a bunch to over night a $10,000 plus trap gun 7/800 miles or more . A good Gun Shop in a small county town is the best place to ship from .
jackmoser65
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Then you have an arrangement that most people do not. With any local dealer here, it must be logged and transfer fees must be paid. Not to mention a background check on the return trip.
And how are you getting away without paying for next day costs on the return trip?
There is no overnight requirement for long guns. Something about your comments is just not adding up.
Yes Jack You are correct no over night for long guns . But my friend most people buying high end do not like the firearm in transit for three or four days .
It is just part of buying or selling high end firearms If a buyer sends me a payment for thousands of dollars he will have the firearm as fast as it can be sent .
As for shipping my own firearm to a gunsmith for work it is mine I already did the transfer when I bought it and it can be shipped back to me no second transfer needed . After all Jack this is what the OP is doing not buying just having work done to his firearm .
It is just part of buying or selling high end firearms If a buyer sends me a payment for thousands of dollars he will have the firearm as fast as it can be sent .
As for shipping my own firearm to a gunsmith for work it is mine I already did the transfer when I bought it and it can be shipped back to me no second transfer needed . After all Jack this is what the OP is doing not buying just having work done to his firearm .
jackmoser65
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I understand all that, this ain't my first rodeo.
However, if the FFL shipping the firearm logs it into their books, like they're supposed to, it no longer legally belongs to you and must be transferred back on the return trip. Which requires a 4473 and a background check.
What I asked is if the gunsmith is shipping it back to you, how are you getting out of overnight charges on the return trip?
Sounds like your arrangement either involves a lot of free work on the part of the dealer, not notifying the carrier that the package contains a handgun or at worst, circumventing the law.
However, if the FFL shipping the firearm logs it into their books, like they're supposed to, it no longer legally belongs to you and must be transferred back on the return trip. Which requires a 4473 and a background check.
What I asked is if the gunsmith is shipping it back to you, how are you getting out of overnight charges on the return trip?
Sounds like your arrangement either involves a lot of free work on the part of the dealer, not notifying the carrier that the package contains a handgun or at worst, circumventing the law.
jackmoser65
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Hey, you started this exchange when you decided to refute my post about paying $200 for shipping. Which is common, legal practice that doesn't involve 3rd parties in an effort to cheap out on shipping.
Is it within the law or do you just think it is?
You told the truth there!
And you still haven't answered my question, three times now. How are you getting out of overnight charges on the return trip if it's coming directly to you from the gunsmith?
Absolutely, you can send a firearm to a gunsmith and receive it back directly. Done it 100 times and have two out right now. However, that's not what's happening. He's using another FFL as an intermediary. I have never asked a dealer to ship a handgun for me that it didn't involve paperwork. Which is why I don't do it.
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Jack my FFL that ships my Guns To FFL,s and Gunsmiths Does not Log it in . He is only shipping to the Gunsmith that is also an FFL . If you read my post I stated I am more then likely PAYING TO HAVE IT SHIPPED BACK to my home . The more I think about your statement about the saving 200 dollars in shipping I just got to smile .
$450 according to the OP. IMO, that's a lot to spend on a gun, especially since it won't really fix the things the OP doesn't like about the gun.
No, he hasn't. It would be $650 if he spent $200 on shipping. Which is even more money, especially since it won't really fix the things the OP doesn't like about the gun.
The OP asked for opinions. I gave him mine. A two tone polish job is not to my taste. I said so. YMMV.
Feel free to spend less on this one.
At least we can agree on this.
jackmoser65
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So you may be paying overnight charges in one direction but don't know? So all this nonsense because you're paying $150 instead of $200? That's brilliant. That or you're still deflecting. Either way, it's not productive.
You do understand that $450 includes more than just the finish work right? It also includes shortening the barrel, re-installing the front sight, slab siding the barrel, porting and an action job. You do understand that all that work is more labor intensive and constitutes the bulk of the cost right? You do understand that shortening the barrel and slab siding it are efforts towards fixing the problem right? It's not a lot to spend at all for custom work. You've obviously never had any done.
Uh yeah, I know that. Was kind of my point.
Nor mine but to characterize it as ostentatious seems a little ostentatious.
Back at ya because so far, you have contributed nothing useful to this discussion. This argument is, simply put, quite stupid.
The gunsmith is an FFL. FFLs can mail handguns for far less money than overnight shipping.
Yes I do understand that the $450 includes more than the cosmetic changes. However, while shortening the barrel and slab siding it will reduce the weight some, it's my opinion that the minor reduction won't really solve the problem, the gun will still be big and heavy (and louder, kick more and generate lower velocities). True, $450 isn't a lot in the world of custom gun work, but it is a lot to sink into a gun you don't like and probably still won't like when it's done.
So my initial recommendation still stands; the OP would be better off to sell the gun, take the money from the sale + the $450 and buy something he actually wants.
Feel free to disagree. Forums would be pretty dull if everyone agreed on everything. But if you can't express your opinions without personal attacks and general jerkery, we're done.
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shootbrownelk
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I thought this thread was about customizing a Ruger Super RedHawk. I have one and was hoping to get more information on the Modifications and Who and Where the Gunsmith was located. Anyway, to the OP....It's your gun, do what ever you want to it.
jackmoser65
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HE IS RECEIVING THE FIREARM DIRECTLY BACK FROM THE GUNSMITH, WHICH CANNOT UTILIZE USPS SHIPPING!!! That only works FFL to FFL. Please read more carefully.
On that we agree.
Master Blaster
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You are going to spend $450 making a $750 value used gun into a $500 value (harder to sell too) used gun. The porting will make the gun louder, and really not do much otherwise. If the gun is too big and heavy to carry in the field, the custom work will not fix that issue as it will only chop off a couple of ounces. Sell the gun for $700 and take the $450 and get a gun that meets your needs $1150 will buy a nice and lighter revolver.
I've seen several Super Redhawk custom jobs that I think have really made a huge positive difference in how the gun looks...which is worthwhile for any owner who has strong preferences in such things. Even though I don't think the op asked for any opinions, I do share the view that porting detracts...but to me that's not always the case.
But whatever you choose to do with your SR, I'm sure everyone including me would like to see the result. Removing the hideous lettering alone is worth the trouble. I just did mine by hand (the 'Alaskan' part anyway)--it's a 'working' gun...
I think the only way I've found to 'carry' this thing is in a backpack.
But whatever you choose to do with your SR, I'm sure everyone including me would like to see the result. Removing the hideous lettering alone is worth the trouble. I just did mine by hand (the 'Alaskan' part anyway)--it's a 'working' gun...
I think the only way I've found to 'carry' this thing is in a backpack.
Another warped thread ! Getting back to the original post....I think you are on your way to having an interesting and fun gun to play with. Without a doubt the Redhawks are heavy and somewhat bulky, but having your work done can result in a unique handgun with potential.
I hope you will post pic's of it when finished. Sounds interesting.
I hope you will post pic's of it when finished. Sounds interesting.