Current 9mm with a mag disconnect.

[leadcounsel]

I'll be the first to ask the obvious - why would anyone actually desire the silly mag disconnect feature? To me it's a nuisance and more of danger to the owner than a safety. If you own a gun, you should know how to operate it and also make it safe. Relying on such a safety is dangerous. Also, if you need to use the weapon and the magazine is out of battery, in an emergency, the gun will not fire. I've read about people trying to fire a mag-disconnect weapon after it sat in their holster, and the mag catch was pressed and made the magazine slightly out of battery, engaging the safety.

My Browning Hi Power removal of the nuisance device vastly improved the trigger and magazine drop.

I love the 3rd Gen SW pistols, but one of their drawbacks is the mag disconnect.

If you must have the device, either of these two guns or HP clones are available and are affordable. Heck you can get the 3rd Gen SWs for around 4 bills.

 

[BigMikey76]

I'll be the first to ask the obvious - why would anyone actually desire the silly mag disconnect feature?

I was thinking the same thing. It isn't a deal breaker for me, but I can't imagine going out of my way to have that particular feature on my guns. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I have heard of people who like that on their bedside guns - that way you can have a round chambered and the mag out just in case the kids sneak into the bedroom in the middle of the night. Then, if you need it, you just pop the mag in and it is ready to go. Not my ideal set up, but some might like to go that way. Then again, since we are empty nesters, I don't tend to worry about curious little hands, so my input may be less valid.

 

[osbornk]

as the above stated. the sd9ve has the mag disconnect. will probably be your most affordable option other than the zastava. but, I must say, I really didn't like my sd9ve, not that it had major issue, but crappy accuracy and not 100% reliable.

Only some SD9VEs have a mag disconnect. Mine doesn't. Mine is more accurate than I am and it has been very reliable.

 

[subhuman]

my SRs had them when I brought them home,they now reside in the parts drawer with the other castoff gun trinkets

 

[Homerboy]

Somebody show me when the presence of a mag disconnect caused an injury or death. I'll show you a hundred where having one would have prevented an injury or death.

The odds of you needing s gun are tiny. The odds of actually firing one are even smaller. Mag disconnects HAVE saved lives. Show me where one caused a life to be lost.

I have them in most of my guns. Love them. Don't see a drawback at all.

 

[carguychris]

...the silly mag disconnect feature... [is] a nuisance and more of danger to the owner than a safety.

When you pick up a pistol in a hurry, it's a LOT easier to tell that the mag's out than whether a little lever is in the wrong position.

...if you need to use the weapon and the magazine is out of battery, in an emergency, the gun will not fire. I've read about people trying to fire a mag-disconnect weapon after it sat in their holster, and the mag catch was pressed and made the magazine slightly out of battery, engaging the safety.

If the mag is hanging out when the gun fires, it's generally going to be thrown clear under recoil, and firing a single shot may not be adequate to resolve a SD situation. IOW the shooter is probably in pretty bad shape either way.

IMHO this is less of an argument against mag disconnects and more of an argument in favor of using a quality holster and a pistol with a properly functioning mag catch. If the holster exerts enough pressure on the mag catch to eject the mag, the real problem is the holster, and the shooter needs to select a different one.

I have heard of people who like that on their bedside guns - that way you can have a round chambered and the mag out just in case the kids sneak into the bedroom in the middle of the night. Then, if you need it, you just pop the mag in and it is ready to go.

Another advantage is an additional level of comfort if one needs to leave the pistol in a vehicle while entering a "Gun Free" zone. While it's no substitute for properly locking the pistol up, the shooter can eject the mag and take it with her*, with the knowledge that the pistol can't be fired in her absence unless the thief just happens to have an appropriate magazine—the chances of which are near-zero. (*Note: Most GFZ's only ban guns—not ammunition in magazines. )

A non-disconnect pistol owner can achieve the same thing by unloading the pistol on arrival and reloading it on departure, but (a) this involves additional manipulation of the pistol in a confined space and a consequent higher risk of an AD/ND; (b) there's the risk of bullet setback from shucking the same top cartridge into and out of the chamber repeatedly; and finally (c) the action of racking the slide of a pistol takes longer than simply inserting a mag and looks threatening to a bystander, increasing the risk that someone may see the shooter doing it and call the cops.

All that being said, I'm not enough of a fan of mag disconnects to insist on having them on all of my defensive pistols; I'm somewhat ambivalent about them. My point is that there are valid arguments in favor of having one.

 

[leadcounsel]

Somebody show me when the presence of a mag disconnect caused an injury or death. I'll show you a hundred where having one would have prevented an injury or death.

The odds of you needing s gun are tiny. The odds of actually firing one are even smaller. Mag disconnects HAVE saved lives. Show me where one caused a life to be lost.

I have them in most of my guns. Love them. Don't see a drawback at all.

This is data that is almost certainly not reported, and would be quite unlikely to be reported by the media.

I can say for certain however that I have, on occasion, gone to fire a pistol and the magazine was out of battery. It required just a bump to put it back into battery. In a life-death situation that can mean the difference.

Conversely, the reports of people dying due to the absence of the disconnect are 1) unreliable and 2) politically motivated anti-gun propaganda.

The "cop dies while cleaning his gun" stories are IMO suicides reported as accidents to protect the persons' reputation postmortem.

Gun safety features are important, but can lead to overkill. This is one such feature IMO.

 

[WVMountaineer]

I really like the SR series OP. I own a 45 and a 9 in it. While the safeties are no bother and, down right a necessity for the SR9 trigger, due to it being such a crisp, short pull, I really see no sense in the mag disconnect for my uses.

Addressing the mag disconnect. If someone is able to get their hands on my gun during a self defense situation, then the mag disconnect isn't going to save my life. Nor is it going to save my life if I have errorred and am improperly handing the gun or, by thinking it is unloaded while cleaning it. All of these situations are human error. Human error has consequences that come with it. And, I simply cannot think of one time where it would work to save a life if proper protocol was being adhered to.

I read on a lot of pistols before buying these guns. It was stated that some users were experiencing a failure to fire from some of their SR's occasionally. After taking mine apart and getting to know it better, I'm convinced that is linked to the mag disconnect. So, I see no earthly reason for it. Because the few times I have experienced it in the 45 version, simply opening the slide a .25 inch or so to engage the cocking mechanism and, tapping up on the bottom of the clip produced a fire the second hit on that primer. There is little doubt that the cause is coming from that disconnect feature. At least in my mind. So, I see it as a hindrance to a gun that adds no safety value for the reasons I have already stated. God Bless

 

[Homerboy]

Not once in over 25 years of shooting has my magazine not been seated, including getting in and out of a police car. Not once has a disconnect prevented me from firing.

And there is dash cam video of cops dropping the mag during s gun grab. And certainly plenty of media coverage of the "I dropped the mag and thought it was unloaded but it wasn't".

 

[leadcounsel]

Well the arguments in favor of a mag disconnect have made me stop to reconsider to weight the merits of such a device.

Some very good counter arguments.

But having re-evaluated their merits, I still prefer not having the mag disconnect.