Comparisons
Everybody loves data so here's some to think about.
FWIW, I pulled some comparisons from a very well known Ammo Manufacturers spread sheet. I don't want to screw up on copyright infringement.
Velocity Energy
Muzzle 100yd 200yd
.204 Ruger
39gr SierraBK 3750fps 853lbft 626lbft
Sorry didn't list any bigger bullets.
.223 Rem
55gr SP 3240 958 704
.243 Rem
100gr SP 2960 1615 1331
3006 Spr
150grSP 2910 2279 1824
300WM
180gr SP 2960 3014 2583
Taylorace is dead on about arrows. I have friends who routinely kill black bear over bait here.
An arrow simply opens a bleeding channel, rifles/pistols impart kinetic energy upon the intended target. Kinetic energy equals DRT(dead right there) value.
As you can see from the data provided, there is a near double Kinetic energy difference between the 50ish grain bullet to the 100gr bullet. All things being equal, bullet expansion, etc, then going to at least a .243 equates to nearly double the DRT factor. Simple physics.
Again all things being equal, larger bore/larger energy type projectiles will kill more effeciently than their smaller cousins.
You will be hard pressed to find a cheaper bullet from a major manufacturer than a 30/06. I've seen them for $12.00 on sale in the not so recent past.
I've killed enough animals from 100lbs to 900lbs and watched them die, run off, take the hit, that I cannot buy the idea that a .204 or .223 is an adequate round for deer on up. Will it kill them,,,Yes, in the right hands. My hat is off to you Yithian in this sense. I still see it as poor advice to anyone though. Especially if on a limited budget. One rifle? It should be big enough to get the job done even if the hunter is not perfect and still learning.
elkman06
Everybody loves data so here's some to think about.
FWIW, I pulled some comparisons from a very well known Ammo Manufacturers spread sheet. I don't want to screw up on copyright infringement.
Velocity Energy
Muzzle 100yd 200yd
.204 Ruger
39gr SierraBK 3750fps 853lbft 626lbft
Sorry didn't list any bigger bullets.
.223 Rem
55gr SP 3240 958 704
.243 Rem
100gr SP 2960 1615 1331
3006 Spr
150grSP 2910 2279 1824
300WM
180gr SP 2960 3014 2583
Taylorace is dead on about arrows. I have friends who routinely kill black bear over bait here.
An arrow simply opens a bleeding channel, rifles/pistols impart kinetic energy upon the intended target. Kinetic energy equals DRT(dead right there) value.
As you can see from the data provided, there is a near double Kinetic energy difference between the 50ish grain bullet to the 100gr bullet. All things being equal, bullet expansion, etc, then going to at least a .243 equates to nearly double the DRT factor. Simple physics.
Again all things being equal, larger bore/larger energy type projectiles will kill more effeciently than their smaller cousins.
You will be hard pressed to find a cheaper bullet from a major manufacturer than a 30/06. I've seen them for $12.00 on sale in the not so recent past.
I've killed enough animals from 100lbs to 900lbs and watched them die, run off, take the hit, that I cannot buy the idea that a .204 or .223 is an adequate round for deer on up. Will it kill them,,,Yes, in the right hands. My hat is off to you Yithian in this sense. I still see it as poor advice to anyone though. Especially if on a limited budget. One rifle? It should be big enough to get the job done even if the hunter is not perfect and still learning.
elkman06