crimson trace grips

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i am considering getting a crimson trace grip for my revolver.

i am not familiar with them and was wondering if when you use these in a defensive situation, if the person you are aiming at is able to see it emanating from your revolver?
 
I wouldnt worry about the bad guy seeing the laser. If he does its already too late for him. I will never pull my gun unless I am going to use it. Crimson Trace grips are awsome. You will be happy if you get them.
 
I have Crimson Trace laser grips on three of my handguns -- and would have them on the other two if CT made grips for the JC Higgins .22 nine shooter or the Colt 1908 Pocket Model (not holding my breath). I will not buy a handgun that CT does not provide laser grips for. That is how sold I am.

Would a bad guy see the laser pointed at him? If you had it on, you bet he would! And maybe he would even know what it was! Or not. In a HD/SD situation (which is what I train for at my range, weekly), I will not activate my laser sight until I am almost ready to open fire. It is not a flashlight, so there is nothing to gain from waving it around. Why let him know what I have? As I plan it, if I activate my CT sight, that fellow has a decision to make real soon now. If he makes the right one and runs like hell, then I'm a happy camper! But if he comes at me or mine, well . . .

Cordially, Jack
 
Incase you meant, can he track it back to you, the answer is no.
Movies show the beam, but in real life you cannot see it unless you are in a smoke filled room.
 
Yes you can see the laser coming at you, meaning you can see the begining and end. And they are an excellent product. I have them on a 642 and love them.
 
if he's looking in your direction, he'll see the laser at its source, but not really a beam.

If you're trying to hide, it might give you away, but only if the person is in your direction.

Of course, if it's smoky or dusty in the room, that beam could be visible. After just a couple rounds at the range, you'll see the beam in the air. HOWEVER, if you keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire, the beam will be blocked by your finger.
 
I put them on my Smith 642 and love em. I've been advised to keep practicing sometimes with them off, so I do.

I believe the psychological factor of the beam might help in a situation...might.

I advise to pay the extra 100 bucks and get the 4 series, which are the best of the line, at least for revolvers.
 
My question about the CT grips is does your finger block the laser when your finger is off the trigger? When I take my finger off the trigger I lay it along the side of the frame, I think this would block the laser. I guess that is not really an issue, if I am planning on shooting something my finger would be on the trigger. I am not a huge fan of lasers on guns because I find myself staring at the laser not the sights which doesn't promote good form. I am intrigued by the CT's though...
 
mine seem to be perfectly designed for your pointer finger to fit under the laser when off the trigger, again, the newer version. I have heard the older versions don't conceal well, but don't know.
 
I am not a huge fan of lasers on guns because I find myself staring at the laser not the sights which doesn't promote good form.
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Please explain good form.

Not trying to be ill tempered in my response but looking at the laser dot as opposed to the irons IS the whole point with a laser. Not the same as saying file off you iron sites but they aren't very important unless it's to get the firearm pointed in the general direction of a target that's not right on top of you and, assuming we're talking SD, you have time to do it.

I installed a set of laser grips on one of my firearms that came with sights I couldn't see well at all. (Ruger LCP which has tiny sigths) I like using both eyes and having only one point of focus and with the laser the target and the laser dot are at the exact sample place. No matter how I hold the firearm, good form or bad, shooting around a corner etc, if I can put the dot on the x ring and fire/control the firearm I have a hit and it's accurate.

My lasers came from a company that handles CT products. They were easy to install, fit perfect, work great and came with a cool (free) little DVD. I was thinking about nightsights on the second firearm but for the difference in price vs. capabilities I'm glad I tried the laser first.
Not knocking nightsigths BTW.

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I am not a huge fan of lasers on guns because I find myself staring at the laser not the sights which doesn't promote good form.

That is what you are supposed to do! I call it "good form" to put the red dot on center of mass, then pull the trigger so as to make a hole appear where the red dot is. You can do this from the hip, around a corner, standing on one foot, from under the dining room table -- any old way at all. Try that in a dark room with iron sights and a bad guy charging at you.

Cordially, Jack
 
I am not a huge fan of lasers on guns because I find myself staring at the laser not the sights which doesn't promote good form.


I should have worded that differently. By good form I mean holding the gun how I do when I shoot with iron sights, not necessarily looking at the sights instead of the laser dot. I don't want to develop a habit of holding my gun lower than my sight plane, or in a bad stance that may induce a malfunction because I don't always rely on a laser, I almost exclusively use iron sights. Skill at arms comes from muscle memory and repetition, I want to bring my gun to bear in the same fashion, with the same grip, every time if at all possible. I found myself getting sloppy with my form when shooting a laser. This is not some condemnation of lasers, just my opinion. A couple of you fella's act like I insulted your mother or something...;)
 
I almost always leave mine turned off while practicing at the range. If you can shoot well with just the open sights then having the laser on in a defensive situation will help just that much more.

But I'm still practicing to become a better shot, and that means learning how to use the irons not just holding the gun steady and putting holes where the little dot is.

I love knowing that I have these grips in day to day carrying though. I've never been in a high pressure defensive situation but I really think these would help.
 
I wasn't offended and apologize if I came off that way. Not my intention.
Skill at arms comes from muscle memory and repetition, I want to bring my gun to bear in the same fashion, with the same grip, every time if at all possible.
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It sure can, especially for target shooting. If I understand matters you may not have that option in a defensive shoot. I think your statement is more appropriate to target shooting (least that's what I do when punching paper) or perhaps some of the older defensive shooting theory where the shot is taken with the arms fully extended, feet planted etc. I'm no expert on defensive shooting and I don't play that dude on TV but recently I had a chance to spend time with someone who spends lots of time practicing, learning and teaching defensive shooting techniques. It was an eye opener.
I take it that some of the newer techniques make more of a deal learning to shoot from less conventional stances, say with the firearm held and fired from a position close to the chest at nipple level where there is no way on earth you can see iron sites. Someone else mentioned shooting around corners, perhaps I would add to that while seated in a car, shooting in reduced light conditions etc. Laser sites are a plus for these and similar applications where placing the iron sights on the target is hard or isn’t a possibility at all. If you could say for a 100% certainty you’d never be involved in a scenario that required anything but conventional sight picture and the Weaver stance, then form & muscle memory & consistant presentation would be key factors, unfortunately other things can and do happen most likely will happen and that requires a more varied list of capabilities. Lasers are just a tool to add to that list of capabilities, not a philosophy.

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Selfdfenz I couldn't have said it better. My lasergrips on my XD and my S&W 642 are definately an advantage in self defense training. I don't recommend relying on them completely but they help.
 
this may not be the best way to show what a laser can do, but a friend shot a raccoon that had rabies on his porch at night by just sticking his arm and gun out the door that was openned just enough to get his arm and gun out. gun was a ruger mk 11 .22lr with CT grips. eastbank.
 
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