I am not a lawyer and don't know that much about trademarks, but I do not believe that you can trademark sounds or strings of letters that are not words. HCI could stand for HCI's Crappy Information. CPHV could be Citizens for the Protection of Home and Virtue. Just because your org and their com HAPPEN to have the same letters does not mean that you are infringing on a trademark. If there was a logo involved, that would be another story, but we are talking about an anacronym. I would look into their 'trademark' papers carefully.
CPHV.COM just recieved their certified letter from HCI/CPHV.org
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheBluesMan:
You wouldn't just turn in your guns (protected under the 2nd). Don't just turn in your domains (protected under the 1st). Neither of them belongs to HCI, CPHV, or the Gov. They are your property. You paid for them. Fight for them!
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Try telling NSI that they are your property. IIRC NSI now basically claims that all domains registered through them are their property. Not to mention they are hoarding domains that have expired. John/az2 may want to transfer them to someone like register.com because in a situation like this NSI would love to screw him over.
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"There are roads that must not be followed, and battles that must not be fought.." --Sun Tzu
You wouldn't just turn in your guns (protected under the 2nd). Don't just turn in your domains (protected under the 1st). Neither of them belongs to HCI, CPHV, or the Gov. They are your property. You paid for them. Fight for them!
[/B][/quote]Try telling NSI that they are your property. IIRC NSI now basically claims that all domains registered through them are their property. Not to mention they are hoarding domains that have expired. John/az2 may want to transfer them to someone like register.com because in a situation like this NSI would love to screw him over.
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"There are roads that must not be followed, and battles that must not be fought.." --Sun Tzu
Things are rolling.
That's all I'll say at this time.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
That's all I'll say at this time.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by falconer:
Try telling NSI that they are your property. IIRC NSI now basically claims that all domains registered through them are their property. Not to mention they are hoarding domains that have expired. John/az2 may want to transfer them to someone like register.com because in a situation like this NSI would love to screw him over.
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register.com's contract does not specifically state that you actually own the domain name.
The registrar that cphv.com is registered with, specifically states that the domain name is owned by the one who registered it (company or individual). It is not a rental or leasing agreement.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
[This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited October 22, 2000).]
Try telling NSI that they are your property. IIRC NSI now basically claims that all domains registered through them are their property. Not to mention they are hoarding domains that have expired. John/az2 may want to transfer them to someone like register.com because in a situation like this NSI would love to screw him over.
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register.com's contract does not specifically state that you actually own the domain name.
The registrar that cphv.com is registered with, specifically states that the domain name is owned by the one who registered it (company or individual). It is not a rental or leasing agreement.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
[This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited October 22, 2000).]
Yes, John....
The game is afoot and it will be glorious. You and Andy have my support.... fight for liberty, fight for honor and fight for absolute victory.
Unlike the FOUP ad, this is tangible and has flesh. We are all family, and the family is hungry
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
The game is afoot and it will be glorious. You and Andy have my support.... fight for liberty, fight for honor and fight for absolute victory.
Unlike the FOUP ad, this is tangible and has flesh. We are all family, and the family is hungry
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
We (Rich, Andy and I) will feed the family!
(insert great chest thumping noises here... hey, ya gotta have fun with this!)
Everyone willing will have an oportunity to help in the bleeding of the Jabberwoky.
More to come!
BTW, DC. WELCOME BACK!
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
[This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited October 22, 2000).]
(insert great chest thumping noises here... hey, ya gotta have fun with this!)
Everyone willing will have an oportunity to help in the bleeding of the Jabberwoky.
More to come!
BTW, DC. WELCOME BACK!
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
[This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited October 22, 2000).]
It strikes me that domain names are easy to transfer. Assuming the C&D order is addressed to you, couldn't you just sell the domain to a friend ? Then in 60 or 90 days when HCI catches up with the new owners, sell it again ? It would be an interesting game of cat and mouse. But I am not a lawyer
simonov jr
New member
I'm on this. Can't say more yet, but I didn't take the short bus to school...
I wish you guys would cut this crap out!
I'm runnin' out of money to donate to you two!
Actually, John, if I can get you and El Jefe to personally Email me with an address that I can donate to your cause, PLEASE DO SO!
I'm too lazy to look the information up.
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I'm runnin' out of money to donate to you two!
Actually, John, if I can get you and El Jefe to personally Email me with an address that I can donate to your cause, PLEASE DO SO!
I'm too lazy to look the information up.
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Everyone,
Hold on to your check books for now.
As I read it the "cease and desist" is only a letter from a law firm. It's a bluff letter to provoke the transfer of the domains they want to their ownership. It's not a court order. Nothing has been filed, as of yet. They gave us 20 days to respond.
Once a domain goes into dispute, it is my understanding that it can not be transfered or changed in any way until the dispute is resolved. So playing "ring around the domain name" is not an option, and not one we want to take. This is a fight, not a chase.
More to come.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
Hold on to your check books for now.
As I read it the "cease and desist" is only a letter from a law firm. It's a bluff letter to provoke the transfer of the domains they want to their ownership. It's not a court order. Nothing has been filed, as of yet. They gave us 20 days to respond.
Once a domain goes into dispute, it is my understanding that it can not be transfered or changed in any way until the dispute is resolved. So playing "ring around the domain name" is not an option, and not one we want to take. This is a fight, not a chase.
More to come.
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
I heard somewhere that putting fraudulent papers in an envelope and a stamp on front makes it "mail fraud", a federal offense carrying up to 5 years for each occurrence...
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I see no elephant in my cellar. If there were an elephant in my cellar, I would surely see it. Therefore, there is no elephant in my cellar.
http://www.ety.com/tell/why.html
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I see no elephant in my cellar. If there were an elephant in my cellar, I would surely see it. Therefore, there is no elephant in my cellar.
http://www.ety.com/tell/why.html
Got this in the email box today. I thought you all would like to read it.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Interestingly enough "CPHV" also a trademarked line of Carbomedics(R)
Prosthetic Heart Valve products: http://www.sulzercarbomedics.com/products/mechanical.htm Does the CPHV
service-mark infringe on the MULTIPLE CPHV trademarks?
How about Columbia Pictures Home Video?
It also has long stood for Crop Production Herbal-Various......
CPHV is also a machine-tool and engineering acronym, as in: http://www.eaglebendingmachines.com/angleg.htm
The national Conference for Public Health Veterinarians (CPHV) might also
have a bone or two to pick....
Not to mention internationally-acclaimed institutions, such as: Centre
Pedagogique pour Handicapes de la Vue (School for Blind and Partially
Sighted Children)
Chemically, cPHV stands for a family of Polymers of 3-Hydroxyalkanoic
Acids.......
Medically, it stands for Natural Caprine Herpesvirus 1 (CpHV-1)
Of course, my all-time favorite is the Center to Pervert Human Values ;-)
So......who is confusing themselves with whom?
Robert xxxxxxxx
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson[/quote]
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Interestingly enough "CPHV" also a trademarked line of Carbomedics(R)
Prosthetic Heart Valve products: http://www.sulzercarbomedics.com/products/mechanical.htm Does the CPHV
service-mark infringe on the MULTIPLE CPHV trademarks?
How about Columbia Pictures Home Video?
It also has long stood for Crop Production Herbal-Various......
CPHV is also a machine-tool and engineering acronym, as in: http://www.eaglebendingmachines.com/angleg.htm
The national Conference for Public Health Veterinarians (CPHV) might also
have a bone or two to pick....
Not to mention internationally-acclaimed institutions, such as: Centre
Pedagogique pour Handicapes de la Vue (School for Blind and Partially
Sighted Children)
Chemically, cPHV stands for a family of Polymers of 3-Hydroxyalkanoic
Acids.......
Medically, it stands for Natural Caprine Herpesvirus 1 (CpHV-1)
Of course, my all-time favorite is the Center to Pervert Human Values ;-)
So......who is confusing themselves with whom?
Robert xxxxxxxx
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson[/quote]
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.COM & www.handguncontrol.NET are being sued by Handgun Control, Inc.!
See the "cease and desist" letter here: www.cphv.com/lawsuit.html