Couple questions....

I guess I'm moderate.

But that really isn't my fault. The end of the 20th century is marked by this really weird polarization in the between the political parties. All the big button issues now fall into one category or another, without rhyme or reason.

I know some will find this a distressing concept, but things like Pro-life, and Pro-death penalty are strange bedfellows. Same thing with being Pro-civil liberties and pro-gun control. While they seem to make perfect sense to those toting the party line, the rest of us don't know who the hell to vote for. And I think some weak souls end up swallowing the rest of the package when they really only care about a couple of items. By the same token, many abandon certain beliefs just because the opposition has identified it as theirs.

While not such a bright idea in and of itself, it would be interesting if we voted on individual issues without attaching them to a party. It might be an interesting exercise in party forming as Pro-gun/Pro-choice or Christian/Church&State seperatists may actually show themselves as voting blocks.


Of course, half the "issues" that go in front of Congress are laughably stupid, and no one should care. We're fighting a war, have economic troubles, security concerns, intelligence concerns, etc, and Congress is discussing "the gay marriage issue". Wow, what a waste of taxpayer's time.


To answer the original position, people who spend a lot of time on this type of discussion are all extremists, but not of the same stripe. I'm an anti-extremist extremist, which is why I end up arguing with people that would proudly announce that they'd kill fellow citizens to defend family. Or with someone who thinks they're part of some elite that "knows better".
 
3rd party?

I saw an interview with the guy who headed up the (obviously) failed Dean run (Trippi?). He felt that a third party/independent candidate might just happen by 2008. He felt (again, obviously) that this person would have to be a strongly admired personality (McCain was tossed out as an example, but Trippi noted he would never do it-but somebody like him).

The reason he made this statement is that he feels that the internet, as shown by Dean, has emerged as an incredible grass roots tool for raising $$$. If just 3 million americans fork over $100 per, BANG!!! $300,000,000.

He feels that if these two parties don't stop pandering to interest groups while leaving many americans behind, it will happen. Trippi, I know, is a lib to the max, but the guy has been involved with seven elections and knows the machine. Just another thought.
 
I don't see the Bible as simply a rulebook and I do not rely on doctrine for my interpretation of it. I believe in the concept of a personal interpretation.

As for the 1st amendment, it is obviously open to interpretation. They all are.

No wonder you are confused, everything you believe in is open to interpretation! :D

Seriously though, situation ethics and relativism are so pervasive in our culture that anyone that believes in anything strongly is considered a kook!
 
I can't help myself....

from Mike's comment:

I still count myself among the Republican fold...me too but the hold is ever weakening

, but I strongly disagree with the party line on things like abortion....me too they accomplished noting so far...one law, now found to be unconstitutional 3 times

, stem cell research,....my tax dollars wasted, corporations should be funding adult SC research not me

gay marriage.....I have noting to be upset about one way of the other as so far, the RP and Bush have done nothing but talk. I feel sorry for the gays if they think getting "equality" via marriage is a good thing...based on my very personal experience with one whale of a divorce. A marriage amendment might be the nicest thing we as a nation could ever do for the gays in the United States.

, and many of the "reforms" that are being undertaken in the name of national security.....I could not agree more, JBThuggary at its worst...well not at its worst yet but that is coming.

I was also adamantly opposed to going to war with Iraq and still believe it to be the wrong thing to have done.....me too, I would have voted to clobber Iran and/or North Korea

I feel incredibly betrayed by George Bush, and am exceptionally disappointed in the past 4 years....again I agree, for almost all the opposite reasons

So, even though Mike and I don't like this administration for exactly opposite reasons we wind up side by side on the same stretch of road at the end of the day. I must be a moderate too.

That W is one heck of a president! He does such creative things with his supporters. I won't even mention the issues I have with W's illegal alien legalization scheme but let's say he finally found this camel's back on that one and I heard the snapping sound.

(BTW Mike I may come off like a wise a$$ rewriting your post like that but I just wanted to illustrate how two people, possibly starting at the about same place with a party could have almost 100% diffferent POV on the issues and still end up with lots of issues and at about the same end point for totally different reasons. I surely am not taking a poke at you or your PsOV)


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