Counter sniper scopes real deal or garbage??

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Counter-Sniper Scopes

Hi to all,
I'd like to first say thanks to all of you, such as Mike McIntyre above who have served in our Armed Services. God Bless You and God Bless the U.S.A!


As far as the Counter-Sniper [CS] 10-40 x56 that Sportsman's Guide [SG] has I'd believe it to be a pretty good scope based on the fact that it sold with a 100% Satisfaction Garantee! They will take the Osprey 10-40 x50 back that I bought about a year ago and give me a full refund even after I tested it out without any hassel and only due to the fact I'm unhappy with the ranging function of the Osprey the rest of it seems fine. Well the turret cap screws were a bit loose, could have been my doing at a prior time too, but that's what we have Allen wrenches for, right?

I should mention, I'm not in anyway connected to SG or any of the scope companies, I'm just a satisfied customer, reloader & shooter who is 64 yrs old
and been around and knows that things aren't always what they seem although I'm not going to try and say the CS is on par with an IOR or Night Force but then again it's at least a $1000.00 less too and I doubt that but only a very few are in Mike's position either?

I will say that I really like what I've read about the functions of the reticle on the CS and very anxious to put it through a number of tests with my 6.5 Grendel. I can easily shoot up to 200yrds on my place so I should be able to get a pretty fair idea about the scope as well as honing my own abilities.


Although the test I did with the Osprey was limited it fell in line with what many others on the forum here said about it in that it held zero very well on my 6.5 Grendel which was also has a pretty good kick to it even with fairly light test loads with a 120 grn Hornady A-Max bullet over 24.9grns of Benchmark powder as test loads.

This gave me two, three shot groups of 1" c/to/c at 100yrds from a bench rest so I was quite pleased everything worked so well together after reading so many negative comments as about the scope. I also had two friends shooting with me at my place and one, a long time buddy of 40 yrs who uses a Night-Force scope never believed my inexpensive scope would shoot as well as it did. Indeed he's the one that said for me to shoot the second target and was really surprised.

I'm a Pro Photographer and have close-up shots of the two targets if I can figure out how to post them. I just figured it out, I think, I need to down load them to the other photo site and then copy the Url to past into the post.

So if the CS is the next step or two above the Osprey I'll be a very happy shooter indeed!


Take care,
David
 
My question is, unless you're in the military, how many snipers is anyone likely to see in their lifetime? Sounds a little like "mall ninja" to me.

Working in pawn shops in the 1970s anbd 1980s, I was actually pretty amazed by the numbers self proclaimed former snipers who were then employed in the construction industry mostly as carpenters and roofers.

I never understood what a counter sniper scope was. Heck, I don't even know what a sniper scope is and so haven't figured out what it is on the counter sniper scope that is for countering.
 
Looking back over a bunch of decades of messing with scopes, my opinion is that I'm a lot better off browsing through gunshows looking for a good used brand-name scope of good reputation than buying a new anything that's pretty much unknown as to quality.

A track record of durability and few if any "bring it back" problems is far more important than the warranty: The warranty won't fix that scope when you're way back in the back-country. That's my opinion as a hunter of deer and coyotes.

"Sniper" and "Counter Sniper" implies hunting men. Bambi doesn't shoot back.
 
I read reviews prior to getting this and noted how many negative comments from people that had never owned one. Began to sound like herd mentality. Found only one negative comment from an actual owner....and that was in regards to dropping the scope and damaging the knobs.

Picked this up at a gun show and installed it on an AR10. The scope functions very well, repeatability not an issue. Found two things that I wish were better....at high end magnification (25X) the image is a little hazy, not as clear as I'd like to see. Also wish there were caps on the external knobs. No intentions to use it for hard hunting scenarios, but it would be nice to have them protected better.

Would I do again?....yes, the features offered at this price is a good buy.

3-25X56....Warne quick release rings.
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Counter Sniper, made up in the same fertile mind as Assault rifle and tactical. Both terms will cause in involuntary twitch causing me to look away or turn my back on any item with that name on it.
 
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IBTL.

Being Chinese doesn't make it junk. Props if you get that. What is important is to check the specs and see if it's quality.

It also helps to self check and see if it's really needed. The pics of the scope on a AR set me up for questioning the whole point - until I saw it was .308.

If you have the coin to blow and it's going on a fun gun, like a range .22, why not? On the other hand, there are lots of better scopes for the money, and some better and cheaper. What is important is if it's more scope - in power - than the bullet can reach.

A 24x on a .22 is nice to shoot wings off flies on a hot summer day, but that's about it. It's entirely possible to spend more on a scope than the rifle is worth.

The old saying that you have to spend as much on a scope as you did the rifle only counts if they were both made in the same country. It's the only way to even out the cost of living and money exchange issues. Otherwise, yes, we do get good stuff from overseas, it's still a matter of shopping it.

A $179 red dot from China can be all you need for range and hunting. It's not absolutely necessary to spend $500+ unless you really can shoot the difference.
 
Read my lips:

L - E - U - P - O - L - D

If you plow up an old Leupold in your pasture, Leupold will fix it or replace it with comparable at no charge. 100% no questions asked. Yeah sure, there's other stuff out there, but Leupold locally is a cult baseline for scopes. I own five.

Leupold just took over production of Redfield.

You DO get what you pay for.
 
To consider

I have two of these scopes and find most satisfaction out of them.

I only use them for long range shooting and they can really handle the wear and tear. I have one of them mounted to a custom 30-338 and was shooting some clay pigeons with it at 1500 yards last weekend.

So, I hope you dont get too discouraged reading through some of the messages. Id rather own several different brands of scopes but this one works just fine and I dont mind letting it bump around the truck seat at all.
 
Necrothreadia! Who knows, the OP might be dead and gone by now, and not able to read the bits and pieces of Great Wisdom...
 
I've read that Sniper's Hide thread before a few times and it always makes me laugh (because it is funny).

I have seen one these at a gunshow and it really did not impress me with build or optics quality. Perhaps maybe if it was priced like a Barska or Osprey it more closely resembles (which people have used effectively, but still is not my cup of tea).
 
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