Coulter's Book Chapter 1
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Rich Lucibella
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I just know this wonderfully fun political debate is destined to go down the "R" road isn't it? 
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The definition of the word theory:
a formal statement of the rules on which a subject of study is based or of ideas which are suggested to explain a fact or event. I can't believe anyone actually buys the notion that man was formed out of dust.
As for Coulter, she's one of the members of the right that scares me just as much or more than anyone on the left.
a formal statement of the rules on which a subject of study is based or of ideas which are suggested to explain a fact or event. I can't believe anyone actually buys the notion that man was formed out of dust.
As for Coulter, she's one of the members of the right that scares me just as much or more than anyone on the left.
Perhaps because she hasn't killed him? What does the death penalty have to do with it? She has money. She has at least a lukewarm IQ. If she wanted him dead, she could have him dead, and probably get away with it without a trial.carbiner said:
The vast majority of people are fundamentally neutral or good. They won't go killing someone without a good reason, something a lot more than an annoying documentary or three.
Darwin is/was a person. I happen to believe in his existence. Someone wrote those books, at least.Pipoman said:
There's no cosmic announcement when a new species is created. Our classification system is terrible. The only real measure of a species is reproductive compatibility. It should take quite a while, and physical isolation, for two populations of the same "species" to diverge that much. Such gaps don't occur in the short time we've had modern science to study them.Pipoman said:
It seems perfectly reasonable to me to look at evidence from genetic analysis, look at evidence of mutation, and conclude that somehow or another, certain mutations (or horizontal gene transfer from bacteria or viruses) end up creating new species.
If God could create us however he wanted, why would he bother with all the complications of DNA? He could just make us stuffed puppets with intelligence, souls, and a hankering for red meat, and he could magically discorporate us after 75 years.
I don't know how to proceed when someone like you suggests that evolution didn't happen. Maybe I'm brainwashed, but all the pieces seem to fit together and it all makes sense to me. The trouble I have is with organic molecules eventually forming proteins, and proteins eventually forming and manufacturing components for the first cells. Without cells, all those proteins themselves must have been self-replicating. That whole arrangement must have had some serious help from Maxwell's demon. The rest of it, there's plenty of evidence for, to me.
Rich Lucibella
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Oh, Guys, Please-
I beseech thee....NOT THE "R" Debate!
I'll get a ton of emails again about being a Jack Booted Censor...and I WILL take the heat.
Rich
I beseech thee....NOT THE "R" Debate!
I'll get a ton of emails again about being a Jack Booted Censor...and I WILL take the heat.
Rich
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Well, I just don't want all of us lumped into the "R" right. I'm a gun owner, and a fervent 2nd Amendment supporter, but definitely not a member of the "R" anything. I keep my "R" opinions mostly to myself however, and find people like Ann Coulter offensive. If she's a pro gun person, she sets us back 100 years IMO, and we'll end up losing to the antis if we rely on people like her to carry our banner.
I'ts rather obvious that some of you have missed the philosophical point of view that Coulter represents. I don't live in a vacuum. I have heard, many times, as much venom (for lack of a better word) from the other political spectrum.
To put this in a gun oriented vein, the NRA is accused of being radical in the defense of the firearm culture. Yet those who describe it as such are just as radical in their desire to destroy the firearm culture. For as much as there are those who would take our freedoms away, there needs to be those who are as agressive in keeping them. That hopefully, brings about some sort of balance.
Coulter points out many attributes of the Left in her ascerbic way. If one is offended by that, then one may need to take another look at their own position and ponder how close it may be to being as she describes. If the shoe fits....
Frankly, whether I totally agree with her or not, it is quite amusing to see her provide tit for tat, which had been quite lacking until perhaps the last 10 years or so, especially in the mainstream.
To put this in a gun oriented vein, the NRA is accused of being radical in the defense of the firearm culture. Yet those who describe it as such are just as radical in their desire to destroy the firearm culture. For as much as there are those who would take our freedoms away, there needs to be those who are as agressive in keeping them. That hopefully, brings about some sort of balance.
Coulter points out many attributes of the Left in her ascerbic way. If one is offended by that, then one may need to take another look at their own position and ponder how close it may be to being as she describes. If the shoe fits....
Frankly, whether I totally agree with her or not, it is quite amusing to see her provide tit for tat, which had been quite lacking until perhaps the last 10 years or so, especially in the mainstream.
Rich Lucibella
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Gramps-
As one who found Chapter 1 entertaining, I gotta tell you: You were doing great up until "If one is offended by that, then one may need to take another look at their own position and ponder how close it may be to being as she describes. If the shoe fits...."
Some of the opponents here have made very cogent arguments that she is just More Noise in a Cacophony of Noise. And their arguments are fair. To insinuate that they might be Closet Left Leaners is a loosing argument.
Take that part out and I think your point is one to rally about. Well done.
Rich
As one who found Chapter 1 entertaining, I gotta tell you: You were doing great up until "If one is offended by that, then one may need to take another look at their own position and ponder how close it may be to being as she describes. If the shoe fits...."
Some of the opponents here have made very cogent arguments that she is just More Noise in a Cacophony of Noise. And their arguments are fair. To insinuate that they might be Closet Left Leaners is a loosing argument.
Take that part out and I think your point is one to rally about. Well done.
Rich
Ill buy that for a dollar.
I do spend money on Books. My most recent purchase was, The Phillipine War 1899-1902 written By Brian McAllister Linn. I feel that I do not need pundit books to center myself in my political leanings. I did go through that phase at one time and sadly found that they put thier pants or skirt on one leg at a time like the rest of us and hearing the same old argument over and over gets old in a hurry. I see nothing productive coming out of it except an amen choir and the polarization of the nation.
If a person disagrees with her philosophy/underlying premise and therefore loathes her they must ask themselves how do I respond to the loud rhetoric of opposition in the media? Do you detest Michael Moore too?
I know I detest and loath Moore and I like Coulter. I fall right of center on many issues, I am a conservative thinker. I find few posters who generally argue issues from the left admitting they are liberal thinkers.
I am sure there are those who genuinely have the same contempt for both. I believe even these people probably dislike them, one for a combination of philosophy and personality; the other mainly for their personality.
BTW, The "R" word may be difficult to weed out of conversation about a book which is based on the philosophy that Liberalism is a "R".
I know I detest and loath Moore and I like Coulter. I fall right of center on many issues, I am a conservative thinker. I find few posters who generally argue issues from the left admitting they are liberal thinkers.
I am sure there are those who genuinely have the same contempt for both. I believe even these people probably dislike them, one for a combination of philosophy and personality; the other mainly for their personality.
BTW, The "R" word may be difficult to weed out of conversation about a book which is based on the philosophy that Liberalism is a "R".
The detest for Mr. Moore goes from the bottom of my tippey toes....to the top of my head. If I didnt beleive in the First Amendment I would take that Moore Critter to the ground, hawgtie him and then apply a judicious amount of duct tape.
Hrmmmmm.... maybe we can have a new reality TV show called Pundit Roping where you get a big shiny belt buckle shaped like a roll of duct tape for winning.
Rich,
I had edited that comment a couple of times before posting. In hindsight, I should have deleted it. I was tired and went to bed right after. I guess the point I was trying (not very well, I suppose) to illustrate is that it is valuable to note whatever those who seem to have the bully pulpit have to say.
Sometimes the more ascerbic or even outrageous the comment, the greater possibility for some thinking to result. I don't think I've ever had any strongly held beliefs change as a result of listening to the dialogue, but at least I've come to be more (and sometimes) less tolerant of other postitions.
I had edited that comment a couple of times before posting. In hindsight, I should have deleted it. I was tired and went to bed right after. I guess the point I was trying (not very well, I suppose) to illustrate is that it is valuable to note whatever those who seem to have the bully pulpit have to say.
Sometimes the more ascerbic or even outrageous the comment, the greater possibility for some thinking to result. I don't think I've ever had any strongly held beliefs change as a result of listening to the dialogue, but at least I've come to be more (and sometimes) less tolerant of other postitions.
While she may be as loud and slanderous as the left is when they push their points, she does it on the side that doesn't offend my sense of morality. (i.e. Opposing abortion). And what does the fact that she is making money off her book have anything to do with? She took the time to write it, alot of people like what she wrote, and they are willing to pay for the product she put time and effort into. People on the left write just as many, if not more books, making money off them.
So was L Ron Hubbard. He wrote his books, which were taken for religion. For that matter, in my view, it took the disciples of Jesus and their different views, opinions, and experiences to write the bible. Just cause someone who existed, wrote something down, doesn't mean it's universally applicable to everyone.
Because, to me, he allowed for the existence of science. A car has to have parts in order to work.
No, your not brainwashed, something works for you and you believe in it. At least you believe in something, unlike some people who use whatever works for them in any given situation. Who then abandon it when it's convenient. Which, I think, is one of the points Coulter was trying to make. If it makes sense to you, that's all that is important. That's something that is great about this country. Some other countries, like Afghanistan, it's Islam, or death.
Probably the best part of the whole chapter. LMAO
I guess I like her because, not only does she say some things I agree with, that most of the media and left don't want said. But she provides a weird sort of balance for the right, which, I think, is where most gun owners are. You have all these people on the left, pushing in an almost fanatical fashion, against stances that I find myself favoring. You need someone, or some group, (such as the NRA), pushing equally for the same stances and issues. I mean, if noone on the right expressed their views as fervently as the likes of feinstein or some leftists that Coulter mentioned, it would seem to some that the right is indifferent of the whole affair altogether. Therebye strengthening the left's side through inaction.
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Many good posts, but most missing the real reason for the books she writes. She is a genius when it comes to marketing...........She will throw out the hook and the Demos will bite and run with it every time....She gets more air time on radio and TV than Hillary or the President. It never fails......Book sales by the thousands....money is good....
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