Could you make a fireable weapon if necessary?

Does the slam-fire shotgun of the Filipino Guerillas of WWII come to mind? Made of pipe, they were crude but enabled the Guerillas to ambush the Japanese.
 
I checked out Guerilla's post and after some reading decided to book mark for reading but under no circumstance join that group. One of the members evidentally likes to play with the other members e-mail accounts!
 
Piece o' cake. Ten years in a machine shop stands me in good stead.But given the conditions of the question, I agree with George Hill. Make what you need, in order to take what you want.
 
Given the right tools (machine shop), what submachine gun would be easiest to remanufacture to current specs or something near to it?

tstr
 
tstr,

I'm not familiar enough with the different models to give you an honest answer. Basically, if you could get the prints for any of them, you can make them. But to make one gun; one receiver, one bolt etc. would be a waste of time.

But the question was " Could you make a firing weapon to defend yourself and your family." I could easily make several single shot 12 gauge shotguns and issue everyone in the house a ration of shells.

Given a horizontal mill, a Bridgeport vertical mill and an engine lathe along the lines of a 15" LeBlond Regal, I could make anything you wanted, given time.

But I could build those shotguns with a file and a hacksaw and a bench vise!

By the way, Allen_Raiford has the best idea!

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Yes, I did it about 15 years ago to prove a professor in college wrong.

He just about pooped himself when I showed up at his house out in the country with two compact and fully functional hardware store firearms, one in .22 and one in .410 shotshell.

TSTR, the easiest would probably be either a Sten type gun, or an American M3 greasegun.

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Yes. If I couldn't.. I'd think that all these years I've spent at an engineering school would have been a big waste of money. ;)

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Easily. Now the odd part is, it seems that a fully-automatic slam fired SMG would probably be the easiet thing to make. I am a CNC machinist, and have access to all sorts of cool equipment, including a horizontal draw-type broach to rifle the bore. :)
Eric

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No, but certain people I know can make reliable submachineguns using nothing more than a hobbyist machine shop.

Oh, and ATF (since I know you're listening in on this one), I am in no way suggesting that this has been done, nor will it. Have a nice day, JBT!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monkeyleg:
Back in the 50's there was a guy who was running an insurance scam in the town I lived in. Drilled a small hole in a light bulb, filled it with gasoline and sealed it. His downfall was screwing one of his bulbs into a socket that had a burnt-out bulb in it but was still live. Still, a slick idea though.

My brothers made a lot of zip guns in that era. I'll have to tap them for the "technology" while they can still remember it.

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Need a bit of dish detergent in the mix so's it clings well.

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Probably, I just don't know, but I'm sure I could figure it out if/when the time comes.

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... But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
 
Why bother making something with limited reliability and a high likelyhood that it would kill/dismember the operator when there are so many already made weapons around. Sling-shots, knives, bats, tree branches, tire irons, CARS,... The list of low risk (to the operator anyway) weapons is endless.
 
Yes, I've forgoten more ways to build a workable firearm than most men can come up with by thinking about it all day. While I'm at it I think I'll throw in a suppressor too.
My advice. Don't screw with homemade explosives. Period. Even EOD guys hate these!Stick with a couple simple, basic designs, zip guns, black powder, match guns, whatever. Build each one and commit to memory the parts needed for each. Test fire-safely! Disassemble and dispose of parts. You will always have the guns in your head, and the trusty hardware store down the street. Above all, be safe, be careful. The metalurgy on pipe steel isn't exactly gun steel. I've seen plenty of guys with one eye, one arm or DOA from making zip guns.
 
If a convicted felon can get the parts and build a firing gun inside a prison, and it HAS happened, I'm sure I could rig something up.
 
I think maybe I'd just carve a derringer out of soap, stain the barrel with ciggarrete ashes, ambush them, and trick them into giving me their gun :)
 
I once saw a model 1911 pistol completely made by hand by some Viet Cong craftsman. The slide release, safety, recoil spring plug, barrel bushing, sights, etc, were all one piece and just carved in the metal. Lots of file marks all over. The pistol was "sway-backed" from being fired many times -- the steel was too soft to stand up to the abuse. At the University of Alaska museum in Fairbanks they have (or did) a hand-made copy of a Ross rifle in .280. As I recall, some guy named (Williams?)invented and manufactured a gas operated rifle in his prison cell which was later sold to Remington. So... given a piece of railroad track, a hacksaw, a Chinese milling machine (a mill bastard file), and something to drill and rifle the barrel, it can be done by anyone with some mechanical aptitude and a whole lot of patience.
 
During the Afghani war against the Russians, I was amazed by the quality of firearms being turned out by the Pthani, using 19th century handtools.

One that comes to mind was a lovely Luger -- at a quick glance you'd swear it was an original from the German factory.

I realize that these are only 'creative articulations', but let us remember to be discrete.

LawDog

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