Cops Call It A "Runner's Fee"

I've travelled a whole bunch of this world and this country during my years. I've met a lot of folks, and a fair number of them were LEOs.

I still believe the majority of all people are basically okay. They don't continually have their stingers out for the world at large, hoping for opportunities to hurt others.

Unfortunately, every barrel seems to have a bad apple or two. This will hold for every organization there is, whether Microsoft, the NRA or some police force or sheriff's office. What everybody needs to remember is that the one or two bad apples do not define the barrel.

I was in Dachau prison camp, last Wednesday. Now, THERE was institutionalized violence against humanity. (I'll start a thread on that.) When I compare what some folks complain about in this country, versus what went on there, I gotta say that some folks just don't stop and think. At the same time, that sort of place serves to remind us just what *has* happened and what *can* happen.

I will say that as one of the longer-term members here I recall very few out of our thousands who have ever seemed hostile to *all* LEOs. The vast majority are pro-LEO and like all good people they despise the low percentage of bad apples in the LEO barrel--as do the majority of LEOs.

FWIW, Art
 
I don't mean to have sounded anti-LEO because I'm not. I've had plenty of very good experiences with LEO. Fair minds have to be realistic though--PDs are employers just like my job or yours--an all employers run across occasional personnel problems. I meant to be addressing the issue of those who cross that line and become a personnel problem, not to suggest that I paint all LEOs with the same brush.

I wouldn't want to be judged by the personnel problems I work with either.

RJ
 
Sensop, NO, I cannot imagine myself in a situation where I would be running from law enforcement.

If this is a natural part of your daily life or thought process, perhaps you need to change your lifestyle.
 
Let me also clarify my thoughts.

1)part of the rule was that if you stopped and didn't run, nothing happened. Therefore people didn't run unless the were hiding something, which in my youth I was.

2)I am not taliking about being beaten to within an inch of my life, I am talking about an buttwhipping, less then I have experienced at the hand of four guys that jumped me.

The problem is not the LEO's (using the bad apple is a hasty generilization, and fails the logical test) the problem is the system.

Let us take Rodney King for example. I watched that court case, and having watched all the facts changed my initial conclusion from guilty to innocent. King owes his life to Stacey Koon, the sergeant on the scene. If Stacey would not have been there, that Chippie LEO would have shot him and that would have been the end of that. Instead the cops try to save his life, and possibly go a little overboard in a very tense situation. And everone of us turn our noses down at the LEO's who try to do thier jobs.

The cops that I have met, tend to be quite street-smart. They have to have judgement or they die on the job. I do not fear getting beatan to a pulp because I will cooperate, and any cop who beats me when I cooperated fully has just ensured that whatever he thinks he caught me on, I will go free, and as a rich man. My benefit of the doubt usually will go to the LEO's, but with that comes some responsibility. A LEO breaking the law, lying in court, abusing his authority, in a criminal fashion (not mistake) should face more severe sanctions then a normal citizen. Cops should be people we trust to enforce the laws we all agree on, The relationship should be one of mutual respect. I feel that it currently is not. From Civilian to cop, to cop to civilian the feeling is us v. them, and this will not work.

To those that worry about a police state, if I feel that has happened then we are at war, and any LEO who is on the other side is an enemy soldier. Is this possible, yes, but very remote.

[This message has been edited by pittspilot (edited September 17, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I do not fault the cops for making that person feel the pain of his actions when they finally get him.[/quote]
Since when are "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" in a police officer's job description? Any cop that assualts a citizen in any manner but self defense or reasonable restraint should be minced and fed to maggots.
 
Is someone talking about my backyard here?

"The Inland Empire, they call it. That area east of L.A. out to and including Big Bear Lake, ending in a wasteland of dry lakes, rock, and heat. Unbelievable heat."

Yep I Guess so, yeah this place sucks. Most friends I know out here use 308's for HD ;)

I think for some cops they see the courts failing to put these scum bags away and so divy out a little street justice because they know the criminals in most cases wont see any real penalties after sentencing. And yes I agree that the media will try to stir controversy if possible. As to phil hendry if that is what was heard then it is purely entertainment.
 
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