Cop shoots self by mistake

It's amazing the number of police officers that encounter pistols that just "go off". In 70 something pistols, 10,000 rds fired a year, and who knows how many presentations from and recoveries to the holster it still hasn't happened to me yet.
 
Glock leg is why da/sa is better (in 9mm ofc).
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I love DA/SA! :)

Happens much easier with a Glock or M&P. That's for sure... The equivalent would be carrying a DA/SA handgun in SA (hammer back). I've carried Glock and SIG for years and years. Hasn't happened, but I do feel there is less room for error with a striker fired handgun. Especially under stress, for some.
 
most gun do not fire unless the trigger is pulled. I'd wager that the trigger was pulled on the gun in question.
 
why would a colt series 70 with the hammer forward matter? I didn't read anything about the gun being dropped.
 
See it every so often in competition and for qualifications. Glocks, Sigs, 1911's, Berettas, M&Ps, doesn't matter. And this is without the stress of just having wrestled a perp to the ground, in the dark, when you adrenalin and you heart rate is way up.
 
Perhaps I'll hear more later but we are covered with snow at present & all those guys are pretty busy right now.
 
It's amazing the number of police officers that encounter pistols that just "go off". In 70 something pistols, 10,000 rds fired a year, and who knows how many presentations from and recoveries to the holster it still hasn't happened to me yet.
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How often was that done while being shot at or during or after a high speed chase or after getting kicked in the teeth or having to walk through your own pepper spray cloud? Frankly you could have done all these things I don't know.

The above is not an attack on you or what you posted as it is absolutely a training, training, training issue. I just think a lot of us, me included, tend to look at incidents a bit myopically or through blinders and sometimes forget that training isn't combat and combat is all kinds of stimulus and focus that keeps you focused on staying alive not necessarily trigger discipline.

Guns are dangerous, they are supposed to be and there are lots of people who handle them improperly or without any training and any gun would be dangerous to them.

Long story, less long. Sometimes it totally is the fault of the user/training. Sometimes it might be the fault of the circumstances in question and mechanical changes might have helped the situation (safety, heavy trigger whatever) Sometimes a heavy triggered, safety having, gun still wouldn't have mattered. We just need to be cognizant that there are more factors than tool / and training at play sometimes.
 
But all those hypotheticals don't apply here. The officer wasn't shot at nor did he walk through a cloud of pepper spray. He did have to holster after a chase meaning his pulse was up and the adrenaline flowing. But at the same time he was reholstering. When that pistol goes back into the holster you're declaring that the threat has stopped or is contained. Reholstering is something you need to do with care and doesn't need to be rushed.

I get the "that's easy to say harder to do" comments. But here's my gripe. "The gun went off." Unless that pistol has suffered a series of mechanical failures, no it did not. A finger or other item actuated that trigger and the firearm discharged as it was designed to do. It's easy to say the equipment failed when it was in fact you. My point before was not, "I am so much better than this officer." The point was "equipment failures of that kind are exceedingly rare". I have had a negligent discharge. It wasn't the equipment, it was me and I admit that because admitting it and learning from it is the only way to move forward. When I see equipment being blamed I wonder if the lesson is actually learned.
 
"The gun went off." Unless that pistol has suffered a series of mechanical failures, no it did not.
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100% agree on this. I think this is typically said for two reasons.
1-to mitigate the responsibility of the shooter/save face
2-A lack of understanding of how firearms work.

The gun went off is absolutely a pet peeve of mine. I have thrown a Glock on the floor with snap cap cocked to show folks modern guns do not go off unless some very unlikely series of mechanical failures happen. The do go off when you are trying to catch them and you catch them in the trigger guard.
 
Glock leg is why da/sa is better
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I have to assume youve never seen someone who didnt decock the gun prior to reholstering. Something thats not all that uncommon in the real world.

"Whatever" leg happens with pretty much anything that you arent paying attention with. ;)
 
A few years ago a Federal Marshall whose offices (kind of a break room really) were next to ours shot himself in the wrist with his service pistol at some point during a bathroom break. I'm not sure how it happened but I bet the gun didn't fire all by itself.
 
1911 leg, so whats your point?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3kJ6SU3ycs

If youre an idiot, and dont take the time to learn what youre using, to the point of thoughtlessness (and yet still unconsciously think about it), then you get what you deserve. What you do it with, has nothing to do with it.
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That is a great video! I shouldn't laugh because someone actually got hurt but I can't help it!

Was it a 1911? The video looks bad on my screen, I can't tell what kind of gun he was using.
 
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