Coolest/greatest Gun: with a twist

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stonewall50

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So what, to you, is the coolest gun, but with the caveat that it has to be an oddity. It has to function in a weird way, be out of place in its time, or just way ahead of its time. Or even a solution to a problem in a weird way.

Just curious :)

I always thought the liberator was cool. The pistol we dropped in France for the Resistance.
 
I'll start.

Handgun? HK P7. Fixed barrel gas delay with grip cocking.

Rifle? M16. Forged alloy upper and lower receivers, barrel extension which deletes gunsmith level pressing into a trunnion while setting the headspace, and the gas cylinder in the bolt carrier which loads the bolt from the rear to compensate for case pressure when unlocking. It even exhausts the gas cylinder out the ejection port.
 
the Russian rex mp412 is everything I could want out of a revolver. polymer framed, break top- autoejecting(simultaneous extraction that can be manually switched off), long barrel. 357, railed, lightweight and super strong. and a wonder to look at.
 
Webley-Fosbery semi-automatic revolver.
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So I always thought this was cool. Cock with trigger fire with other. Simple solution to a problem that was quickly fixed a better way.
 
Given your criteria, I always though the Steyr AUG was pretty cool. To my knowledge, it's one of the first widely successful bullpup rifles and I've always appreciated its shape and ergonomics. Would love to have one one day.

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Talking about experimental firearms, I've always been fascinated by the concept of the Steyr IWS2000. It's a gas operated, semi-automatic anti materiel rifle using a discarding sabot system similar to the AFPSDS used in tanks. The finned sabot dart was said to be so fast and retain its velocity so well that no sight adjustment or holdover was needed out to 300 yards, and it maintains the energy to penetrate 40mm of steel at 1,000m.

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I have also always wanted to see someone revisit the H&K G11 concept. The G11 was a German prototype developed to use caseless 4.7mm ammunition, where the case was the propellant and primer and burned upon firing, leaving no extraction cycle. The rifle could fire 3 round bursts at a speed of 2100 RPM, delaying recoil until after the 3rd round left the barrel and leaving one push instead of 3, allowing 3 shots to be placed in almost the same spot.

There were some issues with the caseless ammunition, but there was a lot of promise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_didDgUjn0
 
Of the ones that I own: Boberg XR9-S, with 2nd place going to the COP 357.

The Boberg action is like no other handgun on the market. It pulls the cartridge out of the magazine and inserts it into the barrel. The hammer is a flat square. There are parts on that gun that I am still trying to figure out what their function is.

The COP 357 is a 4-barrel, top-break .357. Heavy chunk of stainless with a heavy trigger pull. The internal ratcheting mechanism and striker are an odd, interesting design.

Of the ones that I would like to own, but don't: GRAD (now made by Arsenal) .22 knife pistol/revolver. It looks like a knife but has a hidden 5-shot cylinder inside of the knife handle and fires double action.
 
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Sadly I am a heathen when it comes to a knowledge of firearms exotica but a gun does spring to mind as unusual in design and function and be one that I like as well.

The Mateba Model 6 Unica.
 
I would probably also nominate the FP-45 Liberator, but since I should add something to this conversation...

I think the Semmerling was an oddity that was ahead of it's time. I think the concept is absolutely solid and before anyone says it's silly to have manually operated repeater, I believe you have to turn the clock back -WAY- before the day of truly small, working, medium to large caliber handguns.

As far as I am concerned, the Semmerling is not taking a back seat to a semi-auto, but instead takes more of a Derringer-concept and expands it's ability.
 
For its time the Fg 42.
(1st model with the odd para pistol grip.)
Oddly it was inadvertently revisited with the "compliant "butthole" stock of the Clinton ban era mod to the FAL.
 
also like the Le Mat

for some reason, without ever seeing or shooting one I think the COP derringer seems very awesome

and the innogun hybrid
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combination gun with a lower barreled pumpaction
 
I'd have to agree with Skans, the Boberg is clearly ahead of the competition in both terms of design and quality.

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Another handgun would be the Desert Eagle.....it too was innovative as a gas operated magnum. No one has mastered it better than Magnum Research.

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I always thought the liberator was cool. The pistol we dropped in France for the Resistance.
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It was a neat idea. Are you aware that we never dropped any to the French?

Despite the concept, we never got any to the European undergrounds. Essentially, by the time we were ready to do that, the situation has passed beyond the point where they would have been useful.

There were some supplied to resistance in the Philippines, although I don't recall if they were dropped by air, or not. Likewise I have no verified accounts of their actual use. But we did send some....

My personal choice of "oddball" and ahead of its time is the .44Auto Mag.
All stainless construction (rare at the time), cutting edge mfg tech (electron beam welding), multiple lug rotating bolt lock up, and a rimless .44Mag size case, operating at a higher pressure (55kpsi).

 
dakota.potts said:
Given your criteria, I always though the Steyr AUG was pretty cool. To my knowledge, it's one of the first widely successful bullpup rifles and I've always appreciated its shape and ergonomics. Would love to have one one day.



steyr_aug.jpg




Talking about experimental firearms, I've always been fascinated by the concept of the Steyr IWS2000. It's a gas operated, semi-automatic anti materiel rifle using a discarding sabot system similar to the AFPSDS used in tanks. The finned sabot dart was said to be so fast and retain its velocity so well that no sight adjustment or holdover was needed out to 300 yards, and it maintains the energy to penetrate 40mm of steel at 1,000m.



Steyr_amr_1.jpg




I have also always wanted to see someone revisit the H&K G11 concept. The G11 was a German prototype developed to use caseless 4.7mm ammunition, where the case was the propellant and primer and burned upon firing, leaving no extraction cycle. The rifle could fire 3 round bursts at a speed of 2100 RPM, delaying recoil until after the 3rd round left the barrel and leaving one push instead of 3, allowing 3 shots to be placed in almost the same spot.



There were some issues with the caseless ammunition, but there was a lot of promise.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_didDgUjn0
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All 3 awesome choices. I love the steyr. I can also say that I've held a few ARs, but I've never shot either. I don't know what it is, but I'm not a fan of the ARs. I think it is just too popular lol. Plus I'm a shotgun shooter and my favorite is the simple 870.
 
Pond said:
Sadly I am a heathen when it comes to a knowledge of firearms exotica but a gun does spring to mind as unusual in design and function and be one that I like as well.



The Mateba Model 6 Unica.
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Somebody has been playing battlefield 4 ;) lol. But seriously. I understand. A lot of my family are like that. They are 1-5 gun guys and all of them are hunting guns.
 
44 AMP said:
It was a neat idea. Are you aware that we never dropped any to the French?



Despite the concept, we never got any to the European undergrounds. Essentially, by the time we were ready to do that, the situation has passed beyond the point where they would have been useful.



There were some supplied to resistance in the Philippines, although I don't recall if they were dropped by air, or not. Likewise I have no verified accounts of their actual use. But we did send some....



My personal choice of "oddball" and ahead of its time is the .44Auto Mag.

All stainless construction (rare at the time), cutting edge mfg tech (electron beam welding), multiple lug rotating bolt lock up, and a rimless .44Mag size case, operating at a higher pressure (55kpsi).



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I was actually unaware of that. I was under the impression we did drop a few in France. Still a cool concept. The idea is more than sound though. The same idea was used in Algiers AGAINST the French occupational forces. Shoot a cop take his gun. That kind of thing.
 
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