Continuing to lust after the CZ 75.....more questions

The CZ 85C or 75B. Someone mentioned the 85C - I believe it has an adjustable trigger. This would definitely be worth looking into.
 
Skans said:
The CZ 85C or 75B. Someone mentioned the 85C - I believe it has an adjustable trigger. This would definitely be worth looking into.
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The 85 Combat's trigger is adjustable for over-travel only -- which is nice, but not a big deal. The other features that are also nice are 1) an extended mag release, 2) drop-free mags, 3) an adjustable sight, 4) no firing pin block (which means a potentially better trigger) , 5) ambi-safeties and 6) ambi-slide releases. The last two are only important if you're left-handed.

The SP-01 is potentially as nice, or possibly nicer -- particularly if you plan to do IDPA (as the SP-01 was apparently designed with that venue in mind.) I like the bigger safety levers on the SP-01 and SA models, and have thought about putting them on my 85 Combat (they can be installed).
 
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I decided to rent an SP-01 today, just not for me. Where the 75b feels wonderful in my hand the SP-01 just felt a bit awkward and heavy. Other than that, it was accurate, had an anvil like toughness to it and looks pretty good.
 
Skans said:
I was thinking that perhaps the takeup was adjustable.
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Wish it were. That's available only with the two-way adjustable SA triggers, but those trigger won't work in a DA/SA gun if you want to retain DA function and keep that long, straighter trigger. (I've never investigated wither that second set screw would help or work in a standard trigger...)

The Cajun Gun Works and CZ Custom Shop trigger mods are the best way to reduce length of pull (and take up) on a DA/SA gun.
 
I have owned and borrowed more than a few CZ's, and my favorite is still my P01. It's my EDC, competition gun, plinker and nightstand HD.
 
Please keep us updated on what you end up getting, being a new CZ owner myself I'm always interested to see what people think about their other CZs. My next one will probably be either a Scorpion or a CZ97, or maybe a P01 Omega convertible
 
The original CZ-75 and all of the guns that followed are heavily modified BHP clones. Buy the one that fits your hand best. Nothing else makes much difference.
 
The original CZ-75 and all of the guns that followed are heavily modified BHP clones.
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Can it still be a clone if heavily modified?

To my mind that would border on oxymoronic.

Way back when, I once asserted that the CZ was a BHP clone and was swiftly corrected.

Apparently both guns have little in common beyond being a wonder-nine, having the Hi-Power's locking system and a passing external resemblance...
 
QUOTE: "Mr. Pond is correct. The BHP and CZ-75 have very little in common."

About the only thing the two pistols have in common is that they're both semi-auto pistols. Period.
 
dgludwig said:
About the only thing the two pistols have in common is that they're both semi-auto pistols. Period.
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As noted, bout the only thing the CZ and BHP share is a similar appearance. The BHP is a much less complex design, and SA only -- while the CZ is DA/SA gun that can start from cocked & locked like a SA weapon if that form of start/carry is desired. (Darned few DA/SA guns offer that flexibility.)

Both guns use the Browning Locked Breech short-recoil design, but so do about 90% of all other center-fire semi-autos.

Internally, they couldn't be more different. A comparison of their respective exploded (or parts) diagrams will show that they have almost nothing else in common. They are both great guns and both seem to fit the shooter's hand better than most other guns. Diagrams can be found here: http://www.stevespages.com/page7b.htm
 
Very interesting. I had thought the the CZ75 was BHP clone simply due to the similar resemblance. Thanks for setting me straight.
 
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