Congressman Walter Jones wants Federal investigation of NiFong?

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"Do you think it was inappropriate for me to point out that it is a PR site?"
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Not at all. What I said was that if you have a problem with their numbers, and you apparently do or you wouldn't have insinuated as much, then you are free to provide some different ones.
 
they invited this when they had party put on with a sleazy prostitute on the guest list.
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Oh, like nobody here has ever been to, or been the guest of honor at a bachelor party? Please.

As much as I support States' rights and the 10th amendment, I think it's long overdue that the feds stepped in.

Despite overwhelming (let me stress - OVERWHELMING) evidence that the charges were bogus, the accuser nothing more than a whore, and the accused so freaking innocent, this case was allowed to continue for over a year. Piles of excupatory evidence swepted under Nifong's shoes. Meanwhile the NC AG and friends only stepped in recently in the past few months.

Too little, too late.

It's not everyday that the mainstream media takes the side of the rich white "rapists," whose "daddies can buy expensive lawyers," over the poor innocent black victim of rape, kidnapping and racism. But that's exactly what happened. Everyone knew. Even the people who were cashing in on the publicity. DA Nifong, Sharpton, etc. The NC AG not lifting a finger speaks volumes, yes?

The Duke lacrosse team is done. You don't recover too well after a year of scandal accusations, being suspended, losing your head coach, losing your credibility - it's over. They might as well start competing in high school leagues.

As for the three accused, their futures are basically over, unless they score a book deal out of this. Their graduations were messed up, any prospects of a professional lacrosse carreer were effectively erased, and hell, any prospects of any professional carreer (Duke is after all, a very good school) is destroyed too. Innocent or otherwise, no employer is going to pick the one with all that clout. Plus the legal fees, the year of insults, backstabbing, suspensions, accusations.

They have been through a year of hell. And their futures aren't that bright as a result. All because one DA needed a reelection, while AG Roy Cooper was too busy playing golf/ sleeping/ avoiding controversy/ being incompetent to notice.

A TFL member talked about how if an attacker harms those of the justice system, they deserve harsher penalties because they are attacking the system in addition to the individual. So if a person of the system fails the public, does that person get extra punishment for being the worst scum on earth?
 
You need to find a different business sector to rag on about profits. Your whining about oil company profits doesn't fly.
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No whining; just stating the facts. Record profits are record profits, regardless of how one plays the percentages game. Yeah, I'm pissed off about the drug companies, too.

And, considering what this thread is about, it'd be fine for me for Nifong to get the death penalty. :mad:
 
Oh no, not this argument again.

Economics 101: Hurricane katrina creates an oil problem. Everyone starts panicking. Hippies, mainstream media, and environmentalists scream global warming everywhere. In turn, the hedge fund people freak out. Massive amounts of oil are held in storage, in anticipation of a devastating 2006 hurricane season.... that never happened.

It turns out Al Gore was wrong. There's a bunch of hedged oil, costs have been prematurely inflated, and demand is still just as large as ever, if not more.

Hence, record profits.

The cold hard reality is that the fear mongers and those yelling at the oil companies are the ones that caused the profits. They introduced scarcity and higher demand into a market that would have otherwise, adopted naturally. Congrats.

I thought we were talking about nifong
 
<<<<<------nobody. (at least not one with a whore running around)


Oh, like nobody here has ever been to, or been the guest of honor at a bachelor party? Please.
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Despite overwhelming (let me stress - OVERWHELMING) evidence that the charges were bogus, the accuser nothing more than a whore, and the accused so freaking innocent, this case was allowed to continue for over a year. Piles of excupatory evidence swepted under Nifong's shoes. Meanwhile the NC AG and friends only stepped in recently in the past few months.
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as much as I hate corruption on any level (I am soon to be moving to a state that's notorious for corruption at the state level starting with Gov. Huey P. Long and continuing to Blanco) It is NONE, or at least it shouldn't be, ANY of the federal government's business. It is up to the people of that state to handle their problems or not. Which is more to be feared? A local official getting away with abuse or the Federal government abusing the states and the people therein? I'd rather see NiFong or any corrupt official get away with it than the Federal government be allowed in my door
 
I hope you're happy in the new and corrupt state. Put your last comments in a freezer and let's thaw them out after a few years. There is nothing so deadening to the soul as institutional corruption. Nifong of NC is merely the most visible example of a corrupt institution. Legislators know it, LE knows it, even the DA cadre knows but will not admit to it. There never will be a popular uprising because the super vast majority of the voters had no dealings with the system. Those who experienced NC's corruption know good and well what is going on. The entrance of the federales (and in my view constitutionally) will shake thengs up faster and more thoroughly than waiting for popular uprisings (which never happen).
 
I can't quote stats or lead you to a website, but when gas rose to fifty cents the minimum wage was $1.10 and bread was .25. I only know this because I was working for $1.10 and hour paying 50 cents for gas and making my lunches with .25cent bread.

As far as oil profits
Profit and profit margin are two very different categories only a percentage of these oil companies revenue comes from the US market.
 
In essense it is saying the Federal government trumps your state. (I know a lot of people think this way these days, but just the same it is not the way I think) The Federal government is supposed to be the servant of the states not be lord over the states.
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That supposition hasn't existed since the Constitution was written (establishing a strong national gov't to replace the weak, state-dominated one that initially existed) and certainly not since the 14th Amendment was passed. At least since that time, the national gov't has existed in part to insure that the rights of citizens will not be trod upon by state officials who are not punished by other state officials. Sort of like local police not investigating racial murders since the police themselves were directly involved or simply looked the other way.

If the state bar actually suspends or disbars Nifong (which may occur due to the publicity), but the state does not prosecute him for the criminal violation of the innocent players' rights, then the feds have every right to step in because Nifong violated the Constitution (the right to due process) and will otherwise be getting away with it.

And yes, the national gov't does trump the state gov't. That's also in the Constitution, as the supremacy clause.
 
That supposition hasn't existed since the Constitution was written (establishing a strong national gov't to replace the weak, state-dominated one that initially existed) and certainly not since the 14th Amendment was passed.
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Buzz, better get back to that ConLaw book! States' rights were pre-eminent, until Ol' Abe circumvented the Founders' intentions and centralized power in the central government. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were passed without the votes of "real" representatives of those states that once comprised the Confederate States of America. Those in Congress voting "for" the Southern States, relative to the aforesaid amendments, were just figureheads; not elected by the people of the Southern States. Had Gen. Lee not tired of killing yankees, we'd have a superior form of government.
 
I personally want to see as much attention drawn to this as possible so it doesn't happen again.. and I hope hope hope Nifong gets disbarred and sued under USC 1983 for violation of civil rights.. so I'm glad the Feds are pursuing it.

However, someone elsewhere brought up a great point: this kind of stuff has been regularly happening to black men for 150 years at least. A white woman accuses a black man of raping her, the story is obviously bogus, but guess what the black man goes to jail. Maybe later he's exonerated (these days through DNA)... does it ever make the front page? I don't think so!

If Jesse Jackson wants some camera time he should be bringing these points up.
 
Criminal Indictment of Nifong seems a lot more appropriate. These seems no role for the feds to play in this other than to muddy the waters, which isn't needed.
 
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