Confused on a 94 winchester?

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mrpike1973

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Hello great place here.
I just purchased a Winchester 1894 model 94 30-30 the serial is 60001xxM.
Here is my confusion it should be a 1991 year however it should be angled eject? it is not it is top eject. Is this rare? I called Winchester several times one person was confused by the M on the end of the serial Number other wise most said it is a 1991 year. I looked at pictures of others and it looks just like the regular top eject models. It's nothing fancy in nice shape and before the cross bolt safety. Really confused is it rare or just some anomaly that fell through the cracks thanks for any help. it does not appear modified in any way. the tube for holding the bullets is flush with the end of the barrel.:)
 
Model 94AE by Winchester was a side angle ejection gun. I suspect that is what you have
 
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Does that mean they made both top eject and angle eject during the same year? I'm 100% sure it is a top eject. it says model 94 on the barrel no AE on it.
 
You can tell if it's angle eject very simply by just looking- the RIGHT side of the upper frame will be cut down slightly lower than the left.

Or, you COULD try actually ejecting something through it.

There was a transitional period, quite likely both versions were produced during the same year, but not concurrently.

I'm not quite sure what your confusion is.
Angle eject does not mean side ejection like a Marlin, it just means the brass ejects at a right angle out the top, as opposed to straight up out the top.
Denis
 
DPris, Thank you for the reply I have no confusion that it is for sure it's a top eject. Just that the serial number would say that it should be a angle eject for that period of number. I think it makes sense what you say a transitional period. I think I'm lucky because for me it's a cowboy gun.
 
When manufacturers introduce new variations to a long-running model, they don't do it on Jan 1, they'll just pick an arbitrary date that suits their internal logistics & make the switch from old to new.

If your gun truly was made in 1991, though, it CANNOT be a top eject. The AE was introduced in the early 1980s & the transition would have happened long before 1991.
Either you got the serial wrong, or you're not understanding what a side eject is.

DOES yours have the slightly lower right frame wall?
DOES yours eject up & to the right?

Can you show images of that area here?
Are you absolutely CERTAIN of the serial?
Denis
 
yep it's top eject.
I called and sent pics to Winchester they say it's a 1991 model.
Possibly a promotional type gun for some reason?i was unable to upload a pic on here.

100% sure it is not a angled eject winchester also said I'm correct. They said many records were lost in a fire? it is a carbine they told me that.

Thanks for the help.
 
Checked some references, could not find any mention of any Win 94 serial number with a suffix letter. Prefix AE (angle eject) and BB (Big Bore), but no suffix and no letter "M".

Other than that the serial # given should be a Win 94 AE.
 
Yep that's what I told winchester to that it should be an AE however it is not and they said it has not been altered. they said it was not rare but a few pop up from time to time? Just confusing.
 
If truly made in '91, it must have been assembled from older remaining parts for some reason.
Those were long out of production in '91.

Possibly built by an employee for personal use.

Nobody at Browning now was a part of USRAC prior to the factory shutting down, to the best of my knowledge, so getting any useful info from them is unlikely.
Denis
 
Just curious being this is a odd gun should I keep it or just sell it? I do like it a lot just don't want any issues with it on the serial number end of it.
 
Thanks for all the help everyone My biggest concern was being it should be a AE and is not that it would lose value or not be worth anything I paid 375 for it and it's in nice shape not perfect I do like that it is not a AE model. I hope I did not overpay to much but any post 1964 I have found are around 250-400 and most look worse than what I have .
 
If you like it & it shoots, quit worrying.
Go shoot it.
And if it does not eject straight up & back, you'll know it's an AE.
Denis
 
If it's an angle eject it will be drilled and tapped for scope mounts.

Look on the top of the receiver and if it has two tapped holes on the front parallel to the bore and two more tapped holes towards the rear of the receiver on either side then it is an angle eject model. If it doesn't have these holes then it is a top eject.
 
If your gun truly was made in 1991, though, it CANNOT be a top eject. The AE was introduced in the early 1980s & the transition would have happened long before 1991.
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The 94AE was introduced in 1983, with the first chambering actually being .307 Winchester in the 'Big Bore' model. Standard fodder followed shortly thereafter.


Checked some references, could not find any mention of any Win 94 serial number with a suffix letter. Prefix AE (angle eject) and BB (Big Bore), but no suffix and no letter "M".

Other than that the serial # given should be a Win 94 AE.
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That's interesting.
Suffixes were used quite regularly prior to the AE/BB.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a suffix on an AE/BB (especially since the most common use of a suffix was due to accidental serial number duplication), but I hadn't realized that I've never seen or heard of one, either.
 
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