Concealed carry class for women

FireForged

What contest?

I’m just trying to have them understand that class was not a good class.

It was over top.

I would love to know what the other ladies in the class thought.

Especially those who had no firearm experience from other sources.
 
Jim567 said:
My wife and daughter decided they wanted their concealed weapons permit.
They took a class today that was advertised for women.

They came back after getting their certificate convinced that a concealed weapons permit or even owning a pistol was too dangerous.

What they got from the class was that they would be sued into oblivion should they ever use their pistol for just about any reason.

Obviously, the liability needs to be discussed . This instructor took it to an entirely different level.

They both now do not want to proceed with the process.

Both have been around firearms and my daughter is a shooter.
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Dumb instructor, they are out there.
 
I'm going to go against the grain here--most people taking CCW are probably self-defense concerned people who are likely--but not always--not going to be serious gun enthusiasts like those of you reading this. CCW requirements vary from state to state--some you just fill out a piece of paper and your done--others require an intensive multi-day course filled with written and practical content.

My CCW class was taught by police department officers--so they naturally leaned heavily into legal ramifications. I'm glad they did; in my experience the majority of "casual self defense carriers" honestly don't have a clue what kind of legal trouble they can easily get into.

Incidentally, my class was a big one--some 50 or so people as I recall. Everyone had either a 22lr or 9mm because they thought that would be the easiest way to pass the shooting qualification test. I brought along my 45 XD. Reading the comment above about the hot brass going down the shirt brought back memories of my test--a spent hot case from my XD went down the front of my shirt--and into the front of my gym shorts. I secured and put the gun down on the shooting table and started a vigorous dance to retrieve the case. For the rest of the class the officers present always cracked a smile or chuckled whenever passing by me--I made a big impression I guess.
 
stagpanther said:
I'm going to go against the grain here--most people taking CCW are probably self-defense concerned people who are likely--but not always--not going to be serious gun enthusiasts like those of you reading this. CCW requirements vary from state to state--some you just fill out a piece of paper and your done--others require an intensive multi-day course filled with written and practical content.

My CCW class was taught by police department officers--so they naturally leaned heavily into legal ramifications. I'm glad they did; in my experience the majority of "casual self defense carriers" honestly don't have a clue what kind of legal trouble they can easily get into.

Incidentally, my class was a big one--some 50 or so people as I recall. Everyone had either a 22lr or 9mm because they thought that would be the easiest way to pass the shooting qualification test. I brought along my 45 XD. Reading the comment above about the hot brass going down the shirt brought back memories of my test--a spent hot case from my XD went down the front of my shirt--and into the front of my gym shorts. I secured and put the gun down on the shooting table and started a vigorous dance to retrieve the case. For the rest of the class the officers present always cracked a smile or chuckled whenever passing by me--I made a big impression I guess.
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I instruct the CCW class and speak with people who have taken the course weekly. During our conversation, they will often mention something incorrectly taught during their course; at that point, I will ask them who told them that. Nine times out of ten, it was a retired LE officer. My conclusion is that many LE instructors are clueless.
 
My conclusion is that many LE instructors are clueless
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Could be.
Me personally, given the inner-city mix of people in the class in an area that is widely known for gang violence and killings--I thought they did an excellent job.
 
It's good to have an instructor point out that the CCW permit doesn't make you a junior deputy sheriff. Best to hold back on situations you don't understand. Don't intervene if you can't tell who is who. "Scaring" people by reminding them you can't just go around flashing your gun at people is not a bad thing either.

I've had a hot case drop down into my shirt. Didn't shoot myself over it.
 
The one thing that was missing in my class--never tell LE anything without a lawyer being present if you're involved in an incident with a firearm and they want to ask you questions. I normally am supportive LE--but it's hard to separate your personal idealism when it's you on the spot. On another thread Baldwin is being discussed for the Rust incident--he probably talked himself into a good case of self-incrimination.
 
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