Colt shuts plant, workers talk to Conn. law...

Anti-gun momentum is weakening by the day here. Politicians can make threats but that doesnt mean we aren't a "free" state (whatever that means) Ct is still essentially a shall issue, open carry state with no capacity restrictions and AR-15s are still being produced and sold by the thousands every month. Our State constitution still proclaims the "right to bare arms shall no be infringed" and our citizens plan to keep it that way. Yes, we are a socially and economically liberal state but our rich firearms history cannot be ignored, surpassed or taken for granted. You would be better served in the long run trying to help our cause rather than trying to divide us.
 
Niantician said:
Anti-gun momentum is weakening by the day here. Politicians can make threats but that doesnt mean we aren't a "free" state (whatever that means) Ct is still essentially a shall issue, open carry state with no capacity restrictions and AR-15s are still being produced and sold by the thousands every month. Our State constitution still proclaims the "right to bare arms shall no be infringed" and our citizens plan to keep it that way. Yes, we are a socially and economically liberal state but our rich firearms history cannot be ignored, surpassed or taken for granted. You would be better served in the long run trying to help our cause rather than trying to divide us.
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You are whistling in the dark. Anti-gun fervor is still much stronger in Hartford than it is in Washington, DC. You still have something like 80 anti-gun bills pending before your state legislature, and you still have a rabid governor who is so anti-gun that he has turned against his own "gun violence" task force because they haven't come out with recommendations strong enough, fast enough to suit the governor's agenda. You still have a State Police department whose commanding officer briefed other state police commanders on what the Sandy Hook investigation has uncovered, but refuses to give the same information to the legislators who are working to craft new laws.

And your state's constitution does not say that the RKBA "shall not be infringed." It actually says:

SEC. 15. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.
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Any member of the legislature can propose a bill just like any citizen can file a lawsuit. That doesn't mean it will become law, or even come up for a vote. Two years ago a proposal to limit capacity to ten rounds couldn't even make it to the floor for a vote. Our governor doesn't pass laws by himself. He is noticably frustrated with the lack of action on his proposed bills and with the resistance they are facing by both voters and legislators.
 
Reps from my gun club have been meeting with legislators, the word we are getting (at last communication) is they are thinking they will make a sacrifice, 10 rd ban in favor of dropping the other restrictions.
 
The bill has passed. No ban on hi-cap mags. Just a ban on their sale in Ct. This bill looked a lot tougher two days ago but really got watered down.
 
I think we still need to pressure colt to get the heck out of Ct. They are making people who refuse to register "assault weapons" and their "assault magazines" into criminals. As a community we need to band together and tell any gun related business, get the heck out of CT or else you're boycotted.

Magpul did the right thing and actually started the talk of moving before any public pressure, hopefully colt does the same.
 
There is still registration of assault weapons though right?

Also as of this morning the news outlets are all saying mag registration is still in, maybe the word hasn't got out yet? maybe its burried somewhere in the legislation?
 
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The bill changed a lot last night. Theres no registration of magazines.
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I may be reading it wrong, but that is not what I gathered from the new law.


Sec. 23. (NEW) (Effective from passage) (a) As used in this section and section 24 of this act:

(1) "Large capacity magazine" means any firearm magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device that has the capacity of, or can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition, but does not include: (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than ten rounds of ammunition, (B) a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device, (C) a tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm, or (D) a magazine that is permanently inoperable;

(2) "Lawfully possesses", with respect to a large capacity magazine, means that a person has (A) actual and lawful possession of the large capacity magazine, or (B) constructive possession of the large capacity magazine pursuant to a lawful purchase of a firearm that contains a large capacity magazine that was transacted prior to the effective date of this section, regardless of whether the firearm was delivered to the purchaser prior to the effective date of this section; and

(3) "Licensed gun dealer" means a person who has a federal firearms license and a permit to sell firearms pursuant to section 29-28 of the general statutes.​

(b) Except as provided in this section, on and after the effective date of this section, any person who, within this state, distributes, imports into this state, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, or purchases a large capacity magazine shall be guilty of a class D felony. On and after the effective date of this section, any person who, within this state, transfers a large capacity magazine, except as provided in subsection (f) of this section, shall be guilty of a class D felony.

(c) Except as provided in this section and section 24 of this act: (1) Any person who possesses a large capacity magazine on or after January 1, 2014, that was obtained prior to the effective date of this section shall commit an infraction and be fined not more than ninety dollars for a first offense and shall be guilty of a class D felony for any subsequent offense, and (2) any person who possesses a large capacity magazine on or after January 1, 2014, that was obtained on or after the effective date of this section shall be guilty of a class D felony.

(d) A large capacity magazine may be possessed, purchased or imported by:

(1) Members or employees of the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, police departments, the Department of Correction or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties or when off duty;

(2) Employees of a Nuclear Regulatory Commission licensee operating a nuclear power generating facility in this state for the purpose of providing security services at such facility, or any person, firm, corporation, contractor or subcontractor providing security services at such facility; or

(3) Any person, firm or corporation engaged in the business of manufacturing large capacity magazines in this state that manufactures or transports large capacity magazines in this state for sale within this state to persons specified in subdivision (1) or (2) of this subsection or for sale outside this state.​

(e) A large capacity magazine may be possessed by:

(1) A licensed gun dealer;

(2) A gunsmith who is in a licensed gun dealer's employ, who possesses such large capacity magazine for the purpose of servicing or repairing a lawfully possessed large capacity magazine;

(3) Any person who has declared possession of the magazine pursuant to section 24 of this act; or

(4) Any person who is the executor or administrator of an estate that includes a large capacity magazine, the possession of which has been declared to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection pursuant to section 24 of this act, which is disposed of as authorized by the Probate Court, if the disposition is otherwise permitted by this section and section 24 of this act.​

(f) Subsection (b) of this section shall not prohibit:

(1) The transfer by bequest or intestate succession of a large capacity magazine, the possession of which has been declared to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection pursuant to section 24 of this act;

(2) The transfer of a large capacity magazine to a police department or the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection; or

(3) The transfer of a large capacity magazine to a licensed gun dealer in accordance with section 24 of this act.​

(g) If the court finds that a violation of this section is not of a serious nature and that the person charged with such violation (1) will probably not offend in the future, (2) has not previously been convicted of a violation of this section, and (3) has not previously had a prosecution under this section suspended pursuant to this subsection, it may order suspension of prosecution in accordance with the provisions of subsection (h) of section 29-33 of the general statutes, as amended by this act.

Sec. 24. (NEW) (Effective from passage) (a) Any person who lawfully possesses a large capacity magazine prior to January 1, 2014, shall apply by January 1, 2014, or, if such person is a member of the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States and is unable to apply by January 1, 2014, because such member is or was on official duty outside of this state, shall apply within ninety days of returning to the state to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection to declare possession of such magazine. Such application shall be made on such form or in such manner as the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection prescribes.

(b) In addition to the application form prescribed under subsection (a) of this section, the department shall design or amend the application forms for a certificate of possession for an assault weapon under section 53-202d of the general statutes, as amended by this act, or for a permit to carry a pistol or revolver under section 29-28a of the general statutes, a long gun eligibility certificate under section 2 of this act, an eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver under section 29-36f of the general statutes, as amended by this act, or any renewal of such permit or certificate to permit an applicant to declare possession of a large capacity magazine pursuant to this section upon the same application.

(c) The department may adopt regulations, in accordance with the provisions of chapter 54 of the general statutes, to establish procedures with respect to applications under this section. Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 1-210 and 1-211 of the general statutes, the name and address of a person who has declared possession of a large capacity magazine shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed, except such records may be disclosed to (1) law enforcement agencies and employees of the United States Probation Office acting in the performance of their duties, and (2) the Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction Services to carry out the provisions of subsection (c) of section 17a-500 of the general statutes, as amended by this act.

(d) Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of a large capacity magazine shall, within ninety days, either render the large capacity magazine permanently inoperable, sell the large capacity magazine to a licensed gun dealer or remove the large capacity magazine from this state, except that any person who is a member of the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States, is in lawful possession of a large capacity magazine and has been transferred into the state after January 1, 2014, may, within ninety days of arriving in the state, apply to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection to declare possession of such large capacity magazine.

(e)

(1) If an owner of a large capacity magazine transfers the large capacity magazine to a licensed gun dealer, such dealer shall, at the time of delivery of the large capacity magazine, execute a certificate of transfer. For any transfer prior to January 1, 2014, the dealer shall provide to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection monthly reports, on such form as the commissioner prescribes, regarding the number of transfers that the dealer has accepted. For any transfer on or after January 1, 2014, the dealer shall cause the certificate of transfer to be mailed or delivered to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection. The certificate of transfer shall contain: (A) The date of sale or transfer; (B) the name and address of the seller or transferor and the licensed gun dealer, and their Social Security numbers or motor vehicle operator license numbers, if applicable; (C) the licensed gun dealer's federal firearms license number; and (D) a description of the large capacity magazine.

(2) The licensed gun dealer shall present such dealer's federal firearms license and seller's permit to the seller or transferor for inspection at the time of purchase or transfer.

(3) The Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection shall maintain a file of all certificates of transfer at the commissioner's central office.​

(f) Any person who declared possession of a large capacity magazine under this section may possess the large capacity magazine only under the following conditions:

(1) At that person's residence;

(2) At that person's place of business or other property owned by that person, provided such large capacity magazine contains not more than ten bullets;

(3) While on the premises of a target range of a public or private club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing shooting at targets;

(4) While on a target range which holds a regulatory or business license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range;

(5) While on the premises of a licensed shooting club;

(6) While transporting the large capacity magazine between any of the places set forth in this subsection, or to any licensed gun dealer, provided (A) such large capacity magazine contains not more than ten bullets, and (B) the large capacity magazine is transported in the manner required for an assault weapon under subdivision (2) of subsection (a) of section 53-202f of the general statutes, as amended by this act; or

(7) Pursuant to a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver, provided such large capacity magazine (A) is within a pistol or revolver that was lawfully possessed by the person prior to the effective date of this section, (B) does not extend beyond the bottom of the pistol grip, and (C) contains not more than ten bullets.​

(g) Any person who violates the provisions of subsection (f) of this section shall be guilty of a class C misdemeanor.


Link to new law in its entirety
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/TOB/S/2013SB-01160-R00-SB.htm
 
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I only know a dozen or so people who own guns in Connecticut. All of them are very cavalier about gun rights and are open to 'conversation'. I'm hoping for the sake of those gun owners in CT who value our shooting heritage that the guys I know are not representative of the majority of the state's population. Makes me want to cry because Connecticut was always hallowed ground to me because that was where the fine firearms were crafted.
 
Wasp;

Thanks for clearing this up with the link. We are screwed! Never broke any law in my life and I just may now.
 
Being from new Hampshire I'm glad the state hasn't joined up with the gun laws so far! Colt arms NH welcomes you guess that's why Ruger and Sig among others are here! Hats off to colt its more then just guns here its peoples jobs and their way of life!
 
I wonder why an Oregon company is moving to Texas. Oregon is gun friendly.
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I'm confused by your statement. Who are you referring to?

I like Texas a lot, and wouldn't mind living there. But, it's not the most gun-friendly state. Not with no open carry, and no legislative protection for accidental open carry if, say, a shirt rides up. Other than that it seems okay.
 
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