colorful handguns which appear like toys
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Oleg,
People should be able to have guns in whatever color or flavor they want. No problem. Somebody wants a pink polka-dot P89 they can call that Italian artist and commission another work of art. But I think for a manufacturer to make a small pistol like the P32 in bright plastic colors normally associated with toys is silly on the part of the manufacturer. It's begging to be sued. We don't need that. We've been telling people all along that personal responsibility and self-restraint are all that is needed to curb much gun violence. This doesn't help. Sure, Lorie the super-model looks good with a bright pink Witness. But as I said before, ask our patrol officers how they feel knowing that there are guns sold at economy prices now being mass-produced that at first glance are indistinguishable from toys. Ask our fellow TFL police how knowing that makes them feel when a six-year-old points a pink gun at them and yells "bang." It's a bad idea.
No, I am not calling for federal guidelines concerning the cosmetic appearance of handguns. I hope that the manufacturers have enough common sense to come in out of the cold. But if one of these cute little Kel-Tecs is used to kill a police officer who didn't respond because he/she thought it was just a toy then you won't be hearing ME on the evening news, you'll be hearing Sarah Brady and the like.
People should be able to have guns in whatever color or flavor they want. No problem. Somebody wants a pink polka-dot P89 they can call that Italian artist and commission another work of art. But I think for a manufacturer to make a small pistol like the P32 in bright plastic colors normally associated with toys is silly on the part of the manufacturer. It's begging to be sued. We don't need that. We've been telling people all along that personal responsibility and self-restraint are all that is needed to curb much gun violence. This doesn't help. Sure, Lorie the super-model looks good with a bright pink Witness. But as I said before, ask our patrol officers how they feel knowing that there are guns sold at economy prices now being mass-produced that at first glance are indistinguishable from toys. Ask our fellow TFL police how knowing that makes them feel when a six-year-old points a pink gun at them and yells "bang." It's a bad idea.
No, I am not calling for federal guidelines concerning the cosmetic appearance of handguns. I hope that the manufacturers have enough common sense to come in out of the cold. But if one of these cute little Kel-Tecs is used to kill a police officer who didn't respond because he/she thought it was just a toy then you won't be hearing ME on the evening news, you'll be hearing Sarah Brady and the like.
thequickad
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When I was a kid, I used to play with authentic replicas of handguns. The society was much "kindler gentler" and safer then. Now we have bright color "super soakers", we have many drive-by shootings. Obviously, the color or shape of the toy guns doesn't matter. It's the TV & the lawyers.
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Glenn E. Meyer
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I had two great Mattel SAA Colts with dummy rounds you stuck caps on , a derringer with a knive blade as you see in the collectors book, a Remington pattern derringer watergun and
a myriad of other great guns.
Wish I had kept that stuff.
a myriad of other great guns.
Wish I had kept that stuff.
thequickad
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The question is "how did a criminal get a gun in the first place?" Does this mean the Clinton gun laws don't work...shock!!! 
Do we need more Democrats and more gun laws?
Do we need more Democrats and more gun laws? MountainGun44
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Stupid idea. Irresponsible. Gun manufacturers have to be smarter than that. Firearms are not "just tools". They require a higher level of responsibility from all of us.
I appreciate the mostly sensible feedback regarding the topic I posted, The media sure does a good job of stereotyping us into where I even felt the need to bring up a question which addresses to all of you gun owners who I know believe to be the silent majority. I felt an earlier followup post had hit my concerns hit right on the head. That was that these manufactures of inexpensive handguns ie. keltec, EAA etc, where putting out in the public all this crap. I don't know about most of you, but I am disturbed by store chains which place magazines oriented specifically for adults in places such as where comics should go. Have you ever seen young teens in the book store drooling over photos in gun rags, which often contain the inappropriate ads, photos in the hollywood style, the obsession with sniper and paramilitary type equipment and arms. I'm the first to admit when I first entered the service that shooting and blowing things up was fun, but I was mature enough to understand the context for which purpose it served, too many people I believe do not. Man their I went ranting again. I need sleep. Thanks again for the thoughts on this and other threads in TFL.
I believe whether a colored gun is desired or not is an individual decision. Besides the obvious personal choice ("vanilla or chocolate" taste choice), if the user plans on leaving his gun unattended and accessible by children, of course factors that will further attract children are foolish. Although, if the user is planning on leaving dangerous objects within reach of children, who would expect them to use discretion in other ways?
MountainGun,
You hit it when you said, Firearms are not "just tools". They require a higher level of responsibility from all of us. (Assuming by "all of us", you meant, the owners of said tools.)
If a firearm fires when one pulls the trigger, and does not discharge without this occurrence unless subjected to inordinate "hard use" conditions, the arm maker has done his duty. Storage and usage is the sole bailiwick of the user. Kel-Tec has an exemplary record of customer care and innovation, and I will do my best to support them until this changes.
You hit it when you said, Firearms are not "just tools". They require a higher level of responsibility from all of us. (Assuming by "all of us", you meant, the owners of said tools.)
If a firearm fires when one pulls the trigger, and does not discharge without this occurrence unless subjected to inordinate "hard use" conditions, the arm maker has done his duty. Storage and usage is the sole bailiwick of the user. Kel-Tec has an exemplary record of customer care and innovation, and I will do my best to support them until this changes.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spectre:
MountainGun,
You hit it when you said, Firearms are not "just tools". They require a higher level of responsibility from all of us. (Assuming by "all of us", you meant, the owners of said tools.)
If a firearm fires when one pulls the trigger, and does not discharge without this occurrence unless subjected to inordinate "hard use" conditions, the arm maker has done his duty. Storage and usage is the sole bailiwick of the user. Kel-Tec has an exemplary record of customer care and innovation, and I will do my best to support them until this changes.[/quote]
A P 32 and a P 11 are my primary CCW. I prefer 44's and 45's but they are so much harder to HIDE.
Spectre is spot on about Kel Tec's customer care and innovation. Kel Tec wants their customers satisfied. They also seem to feel that a typical working bloke should be able to afford one of their guns.
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MountainGun,
You hit it when you said, Firearms are not "just tools". They require a higher level of responsibility from all of us. (Assuming by "all of us", you meant, the owners of said tools.)
If a firearm fires when one pulls the trigger, and does not discharge without this occurrence unless subjected to inordinate "hard use" conditions, the arm maker has done his duty. Storage and usage is the sole bailiwick of the user. Kel-Tec has an exemplary record of customer care and innovation, and I will do my best to support them until this changes.[/quote]
A P 32 and a P 11 are my primary CCW. I prefer 44's and 45's but they are so much harder to HIDE.
Spectre is spot on about Kel Tec's customer care and innovation. Kel Tec wants their customers satisfied. They also seem to feel that a typical working bloke should be able to afford one of their guns.
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