Colorado Gun Owners - Don't Surrender!

I'm hearing several times a week from the duck hunters and the revolver fans about how an AWB doesn't bother them. Then they hear about the actual AWB bill and how it affects them, some change their mind, some are just too opinionated to think.
 
I am from TN/AR and have always dreamed of living in such a place, but with the voting and passing of laws that I have seen, Montanna is the new Colorado.

Don't kid yourself. Montana is under attack from the lefties too.

Colorado is still very much a rugged, do-it-yourself place. However, Denver and most of its suburbs have become typical of most major urban areas (think rugged Texas and think of Austin). Major population centers have group-think mentalities and large liberal populations that affect the rest of the state.
 
thallub said:
Too "simplistic", huh?
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Yeah, too simplistic.

I'll put up a couple of examples but this is NOT to start conversations on these issues...

"Gun rights" aren't the only issue.

What if I'm Pro-life and the only Pro-life candidate is for universal background checks?

What if the only Pro-gun candidate has fiscal policies that I believe will bankrupt our nation?

Any number of other scenarios are possible. "Gun rights or nothing!" is too simplistic. A theoretical solution that doesn't work in the real world.
 
I'm hearing several times a week from the duck hunters and the revolver fans about how an AWB doesn't bother them. Then they hear about the actual AWB bill and how it affects them, some change their mind, some are just too opinionated to think.
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They should take into account that all of these laws are nothing but feel good laws and will do nothing to stop crazies and criminals from killing people. When those laws fail to stop criminal activity, and they will, the politicians will come for more and eventually they will come for something that will affect you.
 
From Zak Smith,with his permission:

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Strange first post I know... But.

I am confused how one whack job from California moves to Colorado and commits a horrible crime, and rest of us in Colorado pay with our 2nd amendment rights....... Deal with the mental health issue, that will make the most impact... And while I am standing on my soapbox, why the heck do we still have kids in America that go to bed hungry? Is there anyone in congress that gives a crap about that? What if we had a whole school of hungry kids?

Ok, sorry for the drift... Back to matters at hand...
 
From talking heads on various tv shows VP Biden has made numerous calls to Democrats in Colorado who are on the fence,IMO making promises. I suspect they view Co as a test state, this is not about guns or saving lives it is about power and politics.
 
Once again - please avoid broad stroke rhetoric of the left and right. I had to delete a reasonable post about mental issues because it was laced with such in insulting terms.


GEM
 
I no longer feel any loyalty to my home state of Colorado whatsoever, it will likely take me a couple years to put myself into a position to move to another state, but I am willing to do so at this point. I have carried out life plans that were more detailed and took longer than that.

Colorado is not just more anti-gun than the past, but far more liberal in general. Without getting into politics, I'll just say that I would leave Colorado because Colorado left me first.

I contacted my State representative several times leating up to the vote on these 4 anti-gun bills and never got a single response. Not until he voted yes on all four of them and I voiced my extreme dissapointment with some polite but strong language did I receive the following response.

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Hello Ira,
Thank you for your email and for sharing your views with me. I fully support the language of the Second Amendment but also believe we need meaningful action to keep our communities safe from gun violence.
I followed my district and my conscience and voted for these common sense gun safety bills. These proposals seek a well-rounded approach to strengthen public safety including making our campuses safer, providing support for mental health, and modernizing out background check system. The first four bills concerning gun safety have passed out of the House on February 18th and will now be taken up by the Senate.
Please don’t hesitate to contact me with any further questions.
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The basic response of "I voted my district" has been the same on other issues that are not firearm related so I won't discuss them here, but clearly I no longer share similar views as the district in which I live.
 
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Just in time for these pending bills, particularly the one on campus carry; just in time for Joe Salazar's idiotic comments on women seeing rapists behind every corner, and shooting innocent men - and being safer running to the campus call box...

... you guessed it, a friend over here in Afghanistan has a college student daughter who just started receiving threatening messages from a stalker ex on a Colorado campus.

Her mother is furious, and will let Salazar have both barrels in the near future, I suspect.

Meanwhile, the daughter is going to file a police report, apply for a carry permit, and start taking self-defense lessons.

What's that saying about statistics don't provide much comfort, when one is the statistic?
 
Everyone needs to keep an eye on their state. Some representative in MN introduced a bill (HF241) with all kinds of limits and junk in it.

I contact my state rep. with my concerns and why I felt MN needed no such thing. His response was he's fully supportive of gun rights and has no intention of letting this bill through. :) I sent a thank you letter and told him he will have me and my families full support next election, I told him this was by far my most important issue.

I also sent a letter to my state senator in case it got through the house. Her response was disappoint (and quite frankly was what I thought she would say. I thanked her for her time, told her I was disappointed. She needs to do what she thinks is right but that she will not have my vote or my support at the next election. I also told her that this is my number one concern and that I plan to make sure it is very visible at the next election along with who voted which way (regardless of whether the bill passes or not). I'm hoping the impact sinks in over time.

I also contact Michelle Bachman at the US level and expressed my concerns to her. Although this is a state issue, her office is influential and similar legislation may be coming through the federal level as well. Cover all bases. I still have to email Franken but I hoping the house will stop the bill in it's tracks.

I the letter at the local levels I took a short paragraph to explain why gun rights bare important to me and that it's not just about hunting and it's not just about personal protection. It's also about recreational shooting, sporting competitions, and collecting. No different that the guy with the den full of Green Bay Packers stuff, or the guy who likes to go out bowling all the time. Want to try to get people to see all the sides.
 
Keep up the pressure folks: Hickenlooper is wobbly. check out this recent statement after Magpul made it clear that they are definitely leaving:

While Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, for example, has said it's time for new limits on some guns and ammunition, threats by a major Colorado arms manufacturer, Magpul, to take hundreds of jobs out of state if the governor signs such laws appears to have given Mr. Hickenlooper some pause.
After the House passed four specific gun control bills recently, including limiting the kind of magazines that Magpul builds, Hickenlooper has not yet signaled whether he'll sign the measures into law. (TheColorado Senate has yet to vote on the package.)
“We haven’t taken a specific position on that bill yet,” Hickenlooper said this week, as reported by Colorado Public Radio, “but I from time to time have said contradictory things on it.”

http://news.yahoo.com/firearms-makers-politicians-gun-rights-balk-walk-190524297.html
 
I can't say for sure, but my Democrat Senator (Kerr) definitely seems like he's on the fence, particularly on the magazine ban. I have been writing him for about 2 months and his stance on the magazine bill has definitely softened.

I'm not terribly optimistic, but we might have a slim chance to defeat 1 or 2 of these bills in the senate.
 
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