Colorado Gun Owners - Don't Surrender!

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Keep up the pressure on your state senators!

I spoke directly to mine today (he's a Democrat) and he was definitely on the fence. In fact, he said he had heard from many of his constituents, most of whom were against the new restrictions passed in the Co House.

Don't relent!
 
I won't! I'm sending out another set ot letters emails as i type. Additionally I am working on a letter to my House representative that voted yes on all for of these bills.

My letter does contain language accusing him of being a domestic enemy of the Constitution, You think it's over the top? Maybe, but that's where I'm at.
 
It might be a little over the top.
You could suggest your extreme disappointment in this important freedom-of-choice issue and that you will be voting AND donating to his opposition.
 
I've also used the Governor's website to let him know if he is serious about creating jobs he won't sign for the destruction of them with HB13-1224.
 
Though its like beating my head against a rock wall, I keep trying. My representatives (the ones I can vote for) are staunchly on our side and will not cave, dems from other districts seem hell bent to do what dems do, and don't care what I or anyone else says. We can hope that Governor Hickenlooper has the political sense to realize that while gun control is great stuff in his political Denver bubble, it could be a career ender in much of the rest of the state. If he has his eye on a Presidential run in the future as some say, he will need the support of much of the state, not just the shinning liberal urban centers. The mood out here in the mountains, the prarries, and the agricultural ares is one of not just disappointment, but outright anger. The two hundred Magpul employees that will either become unemployed or have to uproute and move, and the seven or eight hundred related workers that will be adversely affected by Magpuls exodous will not forgive and forget. It is one thing to have a part of the population that does not support you, it is quite another to have many that vow to actively work to destroy your chances at ever being elected to anything again. All of those that are supporting these stupid proposals had best remember that.
And as I like to point out that while I do not condon threats of violence against these "more equal than other, animals" (from Orwell's Animal Farm) at the State Capital, they must understand that laws they pass, must be enforced, at the barrel of a State owned gun, so they are in reality, threatening Colorado residents with violence if we choose to not voluntarily load ourselves onto the cattlecars for transport to the "camps". People will began to make up their own minds when we have crossed the line from annoying stupid laws and inconvienience, to tyrany. When that happens, all bets are off. :mad:
 
I'm not even from Colorado and I still sent the senators an email promising them that if these bills become law, I will not be spending any more time (or tourism dollars) at Estes Park but will instead look at going to Jackson Hole, Montana and the Dakotas, spending my tourism money in those states instead.
 
locload - is John Kefalas your state senator? http://www.johnkefalas.org/
I called him at 720-254-7598 and spoke to him directly. He is getting a lot of pressure from his pro-gun constituents. Nice guy and seemed reasonable.

Call him tomorrow. Keep it respectful but let him know that you will be watching his vote.

Keep the heat up on Hickenlooper as well. His website has a drop-down where you can adress each bill individually.

http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir/requests/opinion-leg.html

Hickenlooper is a moderate, but he smells black gold here in Co (fracking) and is willing to sell out our gun rights for easy EPA permits.
 
USMCGrunt - we love your tourist dollars, but I don't blame you. I'm not moving out of state, but I can certainly vacation elsewhere as well.

Thanks for turning up the heat on these clowns.
 
The legislation passed the House and is on its way to a firmly liberal democrat senate where it is sure to pass. Hickenlooper is sleeping with his pen so he can sign it at his earliest convenience.

Mike Rosen, KOA 850 Denver, had an hour segment on this today. I was on and told him that this is merely symbolism over substance.

HERE IS THE LINK to the audio of the segment in .mp3 format.

My statement starts at ~30:45.

This is a sad day for the formerly free state of Colorado. Mike Rosen has the governor on every month for an interview and he takes calls from the listeners. I don't know what day he does this but if you can try to get on and let him know -- RESPECTFULLY -- how you feel about this legislation. I will try to find out when that will be and give a heads up.

I moved here from CA in 1994 and unfortunately many others followed. Unfortunately, they were not of the same stripe. They have chosen to bring with them the same failed policies which caused them to flee CA in the first place.
 
The Colorado GOP is also terribly fragmented and disorganized. That certainly doesn't help.

Nonetheless, don't give up until it becomes law.
 
Vote the goobers out and start over.
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You're asking this of the same people who voted the goobers in. Those who voted for these politicians over some other platform share the blame, but so do gun owners who didn't bother to get involved until the horse was out of the barn.

So, if it passes, perhaps some politicians will lose their jobs. Perhaps it'll get overturned by the courts. Perhaps. However, things like this would be preventable if voters would educate themselves and take the longview.
 
Just move out and move on.. too many people get caught up in the BS when they need to pack their stuff ans move somewhere else that suits their needs... or dont and deal with it.
 
I always find the "just move" argument amusing. Pack up your family, your life, your business, and start over! Sounds great, in theory. In reality it just isn't that easy for most people. Not to mention these jokers tend to follow us around and get their brand of stupid voted in. For most people FIGHTING to take their rights back makes a lot more sense than moving to a new state that may have the same problem 5 or 10 years down the road.
 
Re: Moving out

NJgunowner makes a very good point. It's easy for those of us in the Patron States of Shootin' Stuff to say, "just move." Realistically, though, our gun-owning friends in CA, NY, NJ, IL, etc., have friends, family, businesses and jobs. Many of them can't "just move."

What's more is that we, the gun-owning community, need for them to stay. Why? Because we need registered, gun-owning voters in those jurisdictions. If I ever want to have a hope of carrying a concealed firearm in (for example) CA, I need CA voters to get out and put folks in office who will change the law for me. If all the legal gun owners move out of one of those states, I will never be able to carry there, should I have to go on business.
 
What's more is that we, the gun-owning community, need for them to stay. Why? Because we need registered, gun-owning voters in those jurisdictions.
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We need registered, gun-owning voters in those jurisdictions who will vote for pro-gun politicians.

Too many gunowners do not value their Second Amendment rights. They vote for anti-gun politicians because of other issues.
 
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The legislation passed the House and is on its way to a firmly liberal democrat senate where it is sure to pass. Hickenlooper is sleeping with his pen so he can sign it at his earliest convenience.
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The Colorado GOP is also terribly fragmented and disorganized. That certainly doesn't help.
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Perhaps I'm missing something because I'm not from CO or particularly familiar with their politics, but as I understand it the CO state senate is 20 Democrats to 15 Republicans while the House is 37 Democrats to 28 Republicans. It seems to me that given the narrower margin in the senate, the chances of defeating these gun control bills there are greater than they were in the house (and they only narrowly passed the house).

Likewise, the new gun control bills received unanimous Republican opposition as well as a few Democrats "crossing the aisle" to vote against them as well. That certainly doesn't seem "fragmented and disorganized" to me. All that's needed to stop these bills from becoming law is a similar Republican response as what was seen in the house and three Democrats to "cross the aisle". It seems to me that the most important letters to write are probably to fence-sitting Democrats.
 
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