Colorado Ballot Measures Coming

Considering that at the same time distrust in govt is at at all time high I'd say it's heavily correlated with the alleged all-time low in gun ownership.

The guys at the range on either side of me yesterday were trading stories of their neighbors' new first-time gun purchases.

The low-ownership survey is being used as propaganda.
 
I was completely floored by my former state doing this crap.
In Colorado, at least in the old days, it was very common to find this NOT being a Dem vs Rep issue and it can't have changed completely to that yet. There are a lot of rural folks who vote Democrat in Colorado and would skin their state Reps or Senators alive for this stuff. Likewise there were Republicans elected from city area's who couldn't care less.
When the Mods talk about not going down the Rep vs Dem road they were 100% right when it came to describing Colorado at least.
I really think a lot of elected officials didn't realize just how strongly their constituents feel about this stuff, and they are going to get an unpleasant surprise come re-election time. It wouldn't surprise me to see the silent majority help them start to understand this by passing a ballot measure at all.
 
Gun ownership in the USA is now only 34% and declining. Gun grabbers are in the majority and they will continue to stomp on the 2nd amendment.
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Where did you get that grab bag of misinformation? The Brady Bunch?

They would like you to believe that, but it is the same as everything the Bradiys put out...misinformation.

Last national poll on gun ownership I saw said 48% yes they own at least 1 firearm, 10% would not answer (you know that is also a yes) and 42% no.

Also, just because 42% may not own a firearm, that does not mean they would not support the constitution.

IMHO: if it goes to a vote in CO, those laws will be repealed by the smame margin that the Denver Post poll gave...by about 68% for repeal.
 
I spent some time after school doing social science research data handling. It involved a lot of modeling and system design... I will NEVER do that stuff again.

Even with the best study including clearly asked and isolated questions repeated multiply and double blind sampled, then repeated multiple times reapplication of the model in different demographics. You still have the required assumption of honest answers and agreed definitions. The best stochastic modeling can't fix this. You may be able to spot an "open end" in the design but getting a demonstrably "true" result is elusive.

Example: "Are you a man" ( )Yes ( )No

An adult citizen may answer for reasons outside of the intended frame of the question. An adult male may feel ashamed of himself for snapping at his kids in the morning so he might be thinking "No, I'm not a Man, I'm a jerk!" and answer "No" on the question. Or an adult woman who just threw her deadbeat boyfriend out may be thinking "I'm more of a man than that bum!" and check "Yes."

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics!


It is my best guess that people who own guns have real world reason to not discuss it with pollsters or outright skew the sample (lie.) The result is drastic under reporting.
 
"How many people are going to take a survey where they admit to owning a gun?

Perhaps people these days simply are more conscious of protecting their privacy"

Aaaand we have a winner Ladies and Gentleman!

This study relies on self reporting of behavior rather than facts and investigation.
All you are measuring is peoples attitudes toward the revealing of the fact that they own guns.
You have not seen or counted any of physical objects in question, therefore it is useless as an empirical study of ownership, and only useful as a study in attitude toward the revealing of gun ownership.

This is a re-post from this http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519250 thread.
The first part is a quote from a remark "Come an take it" made the second part is mine.
If you look at post's 8 & 9 on that thread about the study we are talking about you will see the studies obvious flaws and weaknesses.
It's skilled propaganda put together by admitted anti-gun activists.
 
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