Colorado Ballot Measures Coming

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iraiam

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An article in the Denver Post today says paperwork has been filed to begin the process for repealing HB13-1224 through ballot initiatives. The article says 2 different groups filed paperwork for similar ballot initiatives, both targeting the soon to be law restricting magazine capacity.

Once it gets to the signature collection stage, I am absolutely confident there will be more than enough signatures to get it on the ballot, the results of a sate wide ballot initiative will also tell me personally if I need to just give up on Colorado and move elsewhere.
 
I wonder if it might survive a ballot initiative. The citizens of Colorado voted the politicians who passed this into office. It would take a major and widespread about-face in opinion for such an initiative to be successful.
 
The citizens of Colorado voted the politicians who passed this into office.
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Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. I suppose it is possible that these folks rode into office on Mr. Obama’s coat tails and maybe these recent acts will wake up freedom loving Coloradoans.
 
Based upon all the other things going on in Colorado, my bet is a recall on current gun confiscation laws will happen the morning I wake up and see a full head of hair in the mirror. If you want liberty, move to a free state. Don't expect a change in Colorado if these laws are enacted.
 
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The citizens of Colorado voted the politicians who passed this into office. It would take a major and widespread about-face in opinion for such an initiative to be successful.
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True, but at the time, gun control was not a front-burner issue. It probably wasn't even a back-burner issue in CO.
 
Problem in Colorado is getting the more conservative citizens off their duffs to vote. Turn out for the last election was pretty light at around 38% for Republicans and 36% for Democrats, the bad news was the 26 or so % of unaffiliated voters, the majority of who voted Democrat.
 
That's what happens when there is no conservative option. Many are sick of choosing the lesser of two evils. Over three million Republicans did not vote in 2012. They're sick of liberals and moderates masquerading as conservatives. They've been patient for almost 20 years.

I "gah-Ron-tee" you the Democrats had Gum Confiscation as a front burner item whether they said so or not in the election. This is about confiscation; not control.
 
I'm not saying it would be repealed, but there are only a limited few ways that it can be removed once it's on the books.

1 - Ballot initiative
2- Court striking it down
3- Voting anti-gun politicians out, and their replacements repealing it.

At this point there is going to be an attempt at all 3, it's either that or lay down and take it like a good little citizen, No Thanks.

Gun control has been decidedly missing from all of these Democrats election campaigns, now they bet the farm on it.

Beyond that, I am making long term plans to move out of Colorado, unfortunately, it will probably take me more than a year to do so, due to my current situation.
 
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The fact that gun-control issues didn't come up as a ballot issue tells me that the faction that would like to see firearms controlled didn't think that would pass majority muster.


There will be a super-media blitz from out of state to fight a ballot initiative, but screw 'em. Make em spend it all. I say leave off the sb195 (no ccl w/out some face to face training) and the idea of repealing useless laws seems pretty "common sense." Fighting a misinformation blizzard about sb195 to explain why people should be able to get a ccw w/out ever having to see an instructor in person is going to be an uphill battle and will lose votes in my opinion. Personally, I like the idea of CCW training having some face to face portion. If you care enough, you'll show up.
 
Or, amend sb195 so that the state subsidizes mandatory training for low-income applicants.

EDIT: I would just love to see the antis forced to explain why poor people should face excessive hurdles in getting a permit.
 
A ballot could do it but we need to drive it in every way possible. educate your friends, neighbors, whoever regardless if they own guns or not.
 
Part of me says if the populace of a given state votes in people who purpose to confiscate guns and you desire to legally own guns, it's time to contact a head hunter and a realtor versus trying repeals.

As some states work to confiscate guns at a fevered pitch, other states are bolstering their laws to protect second amendment rights at a fevered pitch.

Thank God we have options.

Good luck to those who try the repeal route.
 
If the people who were voted in did not run on an anti-gun platform, then a ballot initiative could stand a good chance of passing. Most people do not consider a candidate's gun stance unless it's highlighted.
 
I live in NY. Get used to more gun control in colorado.

Your only hope now is that the courts will overturn the law but this is a long shot and it will take at least 5 years or more.

My NY house is for sale and I will move to Tenn.

Gun ownership in the USA is now only 34% and declining. Gun grabbers are in the majority and they will continue to stomp on the 2nd amendment.

The fight to keep our guns and ammo is being lost at the state level. This now includes very serious losses in NY, CT, NJ, MN, Calf., Mass., and others....
 
Gun grabbers are in the majority and they will continue to stomp on the 2nd amendment.
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I don't agree. Most people are pretty much indifferent to guns and don't really care. Those that bother to vote will be swayed by the arguments set forth by the pro and anti sides. Make sure your arguments are good.
 
Gun ownership in the USA is now only 34% and declining.
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Don't use the numbers thrown out by the anti groups. I'm highly suspicious of that number. I live in a very rural area but our local stores have been sold out of guns and ammo since Dec. Somebody is buying all that stuff and it can't all be former gun owners. Any trip to a gun store lets you quietly listen to the crowd. And there are lots of people out there saying, "Let's buy them before they ban them." Any kind of direct empirical observation should tell us that the number of gun owners is going up. Just like I must conclude it did in 2008.

It's the old Occam's razor. Which is more likely to be true, which is the simpler answer? The number of gun owners is going down or the number of gun owners responding truthfully to poll takers is going down? If your phone rang and somebody asked you if you owned guns, what would you say? If somebody with a clipboard approached you at the mall and asked you if you owned guns, what would you say? I know my local doctor's office tried to ask me on a form if I owned guns..... I wrote, "None of your damn business" right on the page.

Gregg
 
^Everybody I know at work is aware that I'm a "gun guy". I have personally convinced/helped/educated no less than 6 military officers to purchase their first guns and get their CCW's within the past 2 months. These are guys (and one bad-ass helo-pilot chick) who really didn't care one way or another about owning a gun until the Dem/Lib machine made it obvious they were going to try and stomp civilian ownership into the ground.

Although online/LGS places are out of stock, every gunshow in town over the past few months has had "stocked-as-usual" tables ableit at about 15% higher prices. Even G19 Gen4's for under $600... yes, seems criminal to charge that much, I know... but they're available at the shows. All my friends did their homework with my help and got exactly the firearms they wanted. They all got their CCW's, and 2 of them are almost carrying as much as I do.

Bottom line, I pay as much attention as I possibly can to all things "gun", particularly law and politics... and I would name my next kid Barack if it was true that there are fewer gun owners in this country now than there were EVEN YESTERDAY, let alone a few months or years ago. Declining ownership my ass.
 
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