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I am a college student going full time. My security guards at the school have no weapons. When they ask for school ID, they take your license when you don't have one. Then you get to go where you please. This is not security.
I want opinions on what would actually have to happen for the senate or each state to let college students carry.
Also, what would have to happen to pass laws to make teachers of public schools be trained and become armed. Are we at this point yet? I am curious.
 
Well, here's one interesting thread recently started. Gives you a little insight to the mindset.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=358315

Virginia does not disallow firearm carry on college campuses, save for one. It's up to the administrators to ban legally carried weapons by their students/faculty.

I think Utah is a test case, and so far to my knowledge has gone reasonably well. No reports of mass murder by college students carrying concealed firearms to class. Perhaps other state legislators will take notice in time.
 
I don't know what it will take, but I hope GA passes something...

I am enrolled full time as a graduate student, work on campus, and I am getting my M.A. in Teaching. I will be going into the teaching field as a student teacher in the fall and would rather be an armed educator than a dead victim. There have been several incidences in area schools of bomb threats (most of which I realize are BS...) and students bringing guns to school.

My girlfriend/fiance was teaching last semester when two LEOs came into her class with the school resource officer and principal in tow. They arrested a 14 y.o. with a history of fighting and being a troublemaker after someone noticed he had a .22 semi-auto pistol in his bookbag. It was loaded with Stingers. He said he was going "squirrel hunting" after school, but had threatened to kill someone on the bus that morning. Other students at her school have been busted with knives and pepper spray.

I don't want her (or myself once done with my M.A.) to be defenseless in that situation. What am I supposed to do if a kid pulls a gun on me? Beat erasers together to create a smoke screen to conceal my get away? Maybe I can shove dry erase markers up their nose and hope that the fumes make them pass out? If the little heathens are gonna be breaking the law by bringing all manner of weapons onto school property, why can't a law-abiding teacher with a CCL legally do the same?

As for college, I know of individuals who carried following VT. Some have started again out of fear of being mugged given the current economic situation. There were even more when there was a spree of armed robberies at apartment complexes around town about a month and a half ago. Are they breaking the law? Yes. Should it be that way? Not in my opinion.

Unfortunately, I fear the crazies who have gone on shooting sprees lately haven't helped.
 
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Here around Seattle, and if it were a leftist issue that they felt strongly about (gay rights/abortion rights/legalizing "it"/etc.), people would probably form an organization so people of like minds could work together. Then they'd spread awareness through pamphlets, demonstrations, press releases, public meetings, networking websites, and other forms of media. They would collect signatures, and once enough had been collected, they'd have an initiative placed on the state ballot that would be voted on by the people. They'd also recommend members of government that people should vote for based on their opinion of the issue at hand.

I'd look into various rights organizations in your area and see if there's already one that could tackle the idea of allowing teachers or students to be armed. That's a lot of machinery to set up, and it takes a lot of momentum to get it going.
 
I carry all the time at my college...

My college goes by many names... Living room, home office, coffee shop, pretty much wherever I have internet access and my laptop...
 
I think the main roadblock to college carry is the administration. Admittedly, college students don't make the best decisions in their Undergraduate careers. There are plenty of people I know with DUI, DIP, and disorderly conduct to prove it. Why would you let these same people carry a lethal weapon on campus?
 
Hunley. If those infractions don't affect your right to own a firearm, why would you think you have the authority to prohibit them to?
 
I too am a college student in Georgia, and would love it if students with Concealed Carry Permits, were allowed to carry on campus. Especially in light of the professor who freaked out in Athens a couple of weeks ago and killed his wife and others.
 
Hunley:
I think the main roadblock to college carry is the administration. Admittedly, college students don't make the best decisions in their Undergraduate careers. There are plenty of people I know with DUI, DIP, and disorderly conduct to prove it. Why would you let these same people carry a lethal weapon on campus?
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I am a 22 year old college student with no record who attends university. Please explain again why I shouldn't be allowed to carry on my campus?
 
I graduated last year and I carried everytime I went to school after I got my permit. It was not against the law, just school policy, I figured I would rather be alive and expelled than dead with a degree.
 
Glock-19: "I graduated last year and I carried everytime I went to school after I got my permit. It was not against the law, just school policy, I figured I would rather be alive and expelled than dead with a degree."

Well, technically... you wouldn't get the degree if you were killed while a student.


What's the general feeling here about taking the baby step of first allowing professors to carry, even if students aren't allowed? Just curious, as I'm a professor with a carry permit. Not sure that I want my students armed when I give back exam results! :)
 
I emailed the president of my school today. I had an email come up asking for feedback, and I took the opportunity to tell him the security was defenseless and I felt unsafe.
In all seriousness if I wanted to I could in fact carry to school...would I? No...I don't want to risk that as wussy as it sounds. The thing is security is so stupid that they would never know in the first place. No one would. There are no metal detectors with the doors, or with the guards. Hell I could keep it in the book bag if I felt the need.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/me...p_GSU.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab&imw=Y
UGH >.<!!!
 
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Hunley. If those infractions don't affect your right to own a firearm, why would you think you have the authority to prohibit them to?
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I was not using them to say that certain people should be prohibited. I was simply looking at it from the viewpoint of school administration. The public at large, especially in college towns, see college students as a bunch of wild hooligans who have poor decision making skills.

I am a 22 year old college student with no record who attends university. Please explain again why I shouldn't be allowed to carry on my campus?
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Again, I was not arguing against it, but simply stating the view from an administrative standpoint.

I am a 24 year-old graduate student with no record who attends full-time. I have also worked for said school for over 3 years now, half of that time spent as a supervisor in two different departments. I have worked until 3 in the morning and had to go to my car in the back of a dark parking lot on numerous occasions, secured several large facilities on campus by myself at midnight, and overseen numerous after-hours parties at said facilities (some with open bars). I am a STRONG supporter for concealed carry on campus. I just have spent enough time working with various VPs and Deans from different departments to understand how they view the typical college student.
 
The SC Legislature is working on a bill to allow anyone with a CWP to carry onto school property provided the gun is left in the car and not carried into a building. An example would be someone picking up their child after school. The bill is currently being reworded to allow ANYONE to carry onto school property. SC law provides a gun may be carried in a car if secured in a glove compartment or like enclosure.
 
it has been shown that people with a CCW are a more polite people than those without as they have more to lose. However that will not sway a liberal.
 
How the staff view the students is bull****! Interview me, make me take an extra course proving my abilities with a handgun, add the cost of said processes into my tuition. Show me the hoops and I'll jump through as many as you want but don't be so narrow-minded that you take away my ability to protect myself.
 
Concealed carry on campus by students??

Is there a need? Of course! Can a college campus be dangerous?

Betcha its never gonna happen though---

The lawyers will advise the universities of their liability from armed students and the need to keep centers of higher learning projecting the atmosphere of
"safe learning" without anyone having the need to defend themselves to attain higher education.

Their perception is their reality!

Believe it!!
 
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