Cocked and UN-locked?

How could you forget to swipe off the thumb safety? When you get a pistol for SD, you practice with it until you don't have to think about it, DON"T YOU?

As for the grip safety, mines stock Colt and its never failed to release for me even after thousands and thousands of draws.
 
Archie nailed this one down to the last letter! the thumb safety was added to prevent thew Cavalry board (Lots of muscle in those days)from rejecting the pistol.
 
Cornbread2, the Glock is not a DA auto, it is a safe-action auto. Safe-action essentially means that unless something is pulling the middle of the trigger, about 1/8" in, then nothing can pull on a trigger. I have difficulty believing that somebody will pull only the outer edge of the "trigger", and not get the center. The trigger pull is also very short, comperable to a 1911. The inner mechanism of the Glock has it on half-cock until the trigger is pulled.
So a 1911 with a firing pin safety, thumb safety off is essentially like a Glock, with an added grip safety. Neither should fire if dropped, and both will fire is the trigger is pulled, though the grip safety needs to be depressed on the 1911. Neither should fire if the slide is out of battery.
 
Last edited:
The clerk in my local gun store/rang said you could carry a Sig P220 45, with a de-cocker no safety, cocked & unlocked. The clerk said as long as you know the condition of your firearm no problem. This sound unsafe to me.
 
Glock safe action & trigger pull

I carry a G-17 which is (I'm told) to big for my hand. With proper grip, when moving my finger from frame to trigger, not enough of my finger is on the trigger. I'm in training & have been taught to draw & fire. When drawing & firing, twice I have caught the side of the trigger & didn't reach the trigger safety. The trigger didn't move the pistol didn't fire. So I need to either get a grip reduction or a new carry pistol. It's possable to attempt to pull the trigger & not reach the trigger safety.
 
Jack - ' Have worked with a lot of "Glockers" and believe your trainer could be right about Model 17 not a good fit for your hand(s). Their newest "slimline" Model 36 is somewhat better, but not a lot. See if you can comfortably and consistently get trigger finger to fit about 3/4 of the way in from the tip and the crease of first joint. If not, FWIW you may be better served by a guns along the line of the Kahr's with single stack magazines.
 
Thanks for the replies

I hadn't heard any of those anecdotes, but they add to the discussion. In my case...

-preparing for lecture/flame-

... I feel I would require more training to carry a 1911 than a Beretta or Glock (two of my other options) due to the single action design. In fact, I'm leaning towards the Beretta as I like the DA/SA design. Not to mention, I'd have to shell out some cash for a carry 1911.

This of course is not to say that you should skimp on training because of the pistol you're using, but rather that some handguns require more training to use under stress effectively than others.
 
Back
Top