CMP 1911s will start at $1000

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They have no idea on the condition of the pistols in inventory. But, based on their experience with M1 Garand the CMP expects there will be Rack Grade, Field Grade, Service Grade, and Collector Grade pistols available and that he expects 10% to be in the worst condition, 10% to be in the best condition, and the rest somewhere in the middle. (He later added that the CMP will thoroughly inspect, repair, and test fire all pistols prior to sale).

The pricing is expected to start at about $1,000 per pistol with the better grades “priced accordingly.”
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So a rack grade USGI beat 1911 is going to run you $1000. I imagine that the collector grades will all go to auction. For anyone who was worried that these being released onto the market would devalue the current market will have nothing to worry about IMHO.
 
That price sounds significantly high based on the quality of the 1911s I've heard they have. Maybe they will be in better shape than originally predicted, or they are counting on the hard core collectors to grab them regardless of condition.

They are probably going to run out of Garands in another year or two, so this may be all they have left to sell.
 
Well, I want one. but I guess since they are only going to be releasing a set amount of them every year.
I am going to wait a few years and see if they come to their senses.

$1000 for a surplus 1911???
ahhhh ok NO.
 
I was looking at 1911's of multiple brands yesterday at Gander and there were plenty of brand new ones for from around $600 to over $2000. Other than as a collector's item why would anyone pay $1000 for a GI model 1911 deemed worn out by the US military?

I believe I will pass on this too good to be true offer!
 
Well, screw that, say I.
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Gotta agree. Unless for $1000 I can get an all matching, all original, and pre WW2 M1911, then I am not interested. I have lots of alternatives for old, worn out M1911's.

I talked with the Rock Island Item Manager back in the middle 1980's. Code A M1911's Code A: SERVICEABLE (ISSUABLE WITHOUT QUALIFICATION) New, used, repaired, or reconditioned materiel which is serviceable and issuable to all customers without limitation or restriction. Includes materiel with more than 6 months shelf-life remaining. were being sold to foreign countries at $2.50 apiece. Of course, they were not available at any price to the US citizens who had paid for the things in the first place.
 
Aniston is a short drive away from me. I will take the short drive up when they become available to take a look see. It is not so much about dollars but acceptability (originality) for me.

I already have a decent Colt M1911 from the year 1918. During my tenure in the Army and my tour in Nam, I carried several different M1911A1. They were all decent pistols. I would love adding one in a display case next to the M1911.

Yes, there are plenty of nice 1911's in the market place and in my rack. The thing is they are not M1911A1's.
 
For a rack grade that is high, but if the higher price points aren't too far off I might get interested. Even with the Garands a rack grade seemed foolish to me considering what you could get for $100-$200 more. How long ago were beater Lugers going for 1/3 what they are now?

If a service grade Singer is $1200-1300 I'm in.
 
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If a service grade Singer is $1200 I'm in.
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True. It's always interesting owning a WWII era firearm made by a company whose primary interest wasn't firearms. At least for me. My dad actually had an Underwood typewriter. Got a kick out of my Underwood M1.
 
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I had lunch with some folks from the CMP at SHOT. Like really high up the ladder, including the special projects officer and the chairman of the BOD. :D

The conversation was basically that it will be several years before they go on sale and also that they really do not know exactly what they will get and "no idea at all." on the prices until they start getting them. Guessing is only guessing until they are on sale and they see what the market will bear.
 
I don't think there is any consistent source of UNITED STATES PROPERTY marked 1911s (even mix-n-match junkers) that is less than $1000. If you know otherwise, I certainly wouldn't mind being pointed at them.

So I think this is pretty much what the market will bear. As a taxpayer, I don't want the government selling surplus for less than it's worth and I think they will have plenty of takers for all but the most trashed guns at $1000.
 
A small PD near here got three 1911s from some fed program last year.
I don't know if they were from the same pool of guns the CMP will be liquidating but you should hope they were.
Two were arsenal refurbs in unscuffed Parkerizing with sharp plastic grips.
Mixmasters, but actual USGI with no possibility of misrepresentation or outright fraud as is so common on the retail market. $1000? You bet.
The third was a Remington Rand, maybe original, maybe a lucky "correct" refurb, i did not have the opportunity to study it under magnification with reference books at hand. Either way, I expect one like it would be a CMP Auction gun.
 
Gee...

Maybe by the time I'm eligible for social(ist) (in)security (tho it'll long before that be a memory), we'll be having this conversation about all the "Service Grade" M9s, w/o cracked frames (BOTH of them).
 
The CMP program is in existence to provide opportunities for marksmanship training to persons in the United States, traditionally it has been funded by the sale of surplus property and not by tax dollars. I have had the privilege numerous times to obtain a fine weapon through this program, an opportunity that would not exist if not for this program. As the demand has increased an d the supply dwindled prices have risen, a situation that causes great consternation to many who are always in search of a bargain. Many of those same persons purchased multiple rifles, ammunition, etc. at a "reasonable price" and immediately resold them via the Internet or other media for profit (a small percentage of purchasers I am sure).
I for one would gladly pay a premium price for the weapon to help insure the continued success of the program (I have donated military rifles to the CMP for auction) and to also obtain a piece of American history. Not all wants are directed by the pocketbook, and I want the CMP to continue beyond my lifetime.
 
Here is the difference for me anyway. I did not have an m1 when I made my first purchase from cmp. When I looked around for an m1, cmp was the best deal out there and you got a piece of history. It was a no brainier. I now have 3, two service grades and a special grade. You won't find a better m1 on the market for the price of a service grade, so if you just want a shooter, a field grade or service grade is perfect and reasonable. The same is true for a special grade IMO. Find an m1 that's shoots that well cheaper. So either an enthusiast or entry level competitor you are getting the best deal.

I already have 1911s, I'd love to have what I carried (Remington rand) when I was in, however, for $1k it is neither the best deal for a person wanting their first 1911 nor a good start for a competitor. That means its only appeals to collectors, (if they put that many out collector value should drop, no). Either those of us who were in, or those who want a piece of history. Much smaller market I believe. As I said, many of us already have a 1911.
 
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